I Believe In God....But...

[GO843]

Not all of us that believe in God/the creator believe in religion or subscribe to its teachings. You ignorant niggas trying to throw the bible and your feelings cause your dog died or your aunt has cancer or some innocent gets killed in war in everyone's face all the time is wild annoying.

God doesn't owe you shit.

You got kids...?

 

[King Freeman]

Hell no. For what? This place is wild trash.

 

[GO843]

Hell no. For what? This place is wild trash.

Lol...If you had them...Would you assume you don't owe them shit?

...Take the bible and all religion out the picture...Take the name "God" out the picture...We come from somewhere...Something created all this trash ass shit...So the "parent" of existence owes its creations...But maybe its already given us everything we're owed for now...

 

[King Freeman]

Lol...If you had them...Would you assume you don't owe them shit?

...Take the bible and all religion out the picture...Take the name "God" out the picture...We come from somewhere...Something created all this trash ass shit...So the "parent" of existence owes its creations...But maybe its already given us everything we're owed for now...

This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen in writing. First of all having a kid doesn't make me a God it just makes me a parent, second you don't understand God so how could you possibly compare?
The universe didn't pop out of his pussy what are you talking about.

 

[AZTG]

I dont believe the god of the bible is or was real. Behaves more human that human. Tho I view the bible and majority of the characters in it as aspects of human nature/mind. I rarely shit on the bible because if read with the understanding it is mostly allegorical, figurative and symbolic it's a lot easier to learn from and appreciate.

God for me dwells in the void: no sound, no light and no form. Basically undifferentiated conscious potential. From there everything comes and to there everything returns(you think it impossible but we do it daily with our creations). I only pass on what I have put into action and tested the veracity of and thus I say there is most definitely something higher than myself that I call upon for so much help and understanding that I cannot deny the existence of a "god" or "supreme being" or " ultimate consciousness" idkwtf to call it. But I give it thanks whenever I remember, I practice being a good human being like jesus and always tell others how good god is, whatever "god" is.

This is a really cool way to view things but it doesnt really fall in the definition of what people say when they say they believe in god.

For example, you and vibe are both saying you believe in god but your definition of god throws all of his beliefs out the window and his definition of god will have you burning in hell for your belief.

You cant have views that opposing and still say we both believe in god.

Your view is like God is the energy that existed before the bing bang and the energy that is now expanding after the big bang. Not a sentient being. Cool interpretation.

 

[GO843]

This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen in writing. First of all having a kid doesn't make me a God it just makes me a parent, second you don't understand God so how could you possibly compare?
The universe didn't pop out of his pussy what are you talking about.

When you have a child, you create a life...A whole life...You feel attached to said life(usually)...You give it things it needs to survive, because you are a parent..."God" is the "parent" of anything and everything you see and feel...So maybe, seeing as how we are surviving, our "parent" already gave us everything we're owed and there will be no further explanation....But it's completely understandable for a confused child to want answers from their parent when they question life...

 

[King Freeman]

When you have a child, you create a life...A whole life...You feel attached to said life(usually)...You give it things it needs to survive, because you are a parent..."God" is the "parent" of anything and everything you see and feel...So maybe, seeing as how we are surviving, our "parent" already gave us everything we're owed and there will be no further explanation....But it's completely understandable for a confused child to want answers from their parent when they question life...

Yeah ain't no simplifying God. Sorry.

Gtfohwtbs.

 

[GO843]

Yeah ain't no simplifying God. Sorry.

Gtfohwtbs.

Ion see that as simplifying God at all...We're the simple ones, looking for explanations for our complicated existence...

 

[VIBE]

This is a really cool way to view things but it doesnt really fall in the definition of what people say when they say they believe in god.

For example, you and vibe are both saying you believe in god but your definition of god throws all of his beliefs out the window and his definition of god will have you burning in hell for your belief.

You cant have views that opposing and still say we both believe in god.

Your view is like God is the energy that existed before the bing bang and the energy that is now expanding after the big bang. Not a sentient being. Cool interpretation.

Pantheism

 

[VIBE]

So God can't sin?

Didnt God get angry and kill off most of humanity.. and since killing is a sin... doesn't that mean in Gods anger.. he sinned? *shrugs*

But yeah, where I was going with it was.. if you are all knowing and all powerful and perfect.. then how is it possible to have created something imperfect..and then get mad at its imperfection

If God is holy, how can he sin? He’s separate from it. It’s why he separated himself from Jesus when Jesus asked why he was being forsaken.

Foreknowledge, how can he be upset, surprised, grieved etc but truthfully, they’re not important to understand. I can’t explain them bc my mind only knows what I know. I don’t know the mind of God, I can make the best sense of it that I can. We were “made in his likeness”, which means we have intelligence, emotions etc... I assume our experience w these thoughts and feelings are much less than his, so we cannot understand fully what it means to be jealous or angry the way God is. It’s out of love, so that’s hard to comprehend what we think of as a negative emotion to be positive.

 

[RaptureSoonUgoing?]

Love has to be received or rejected. Thus God created beings, Angels and Humans, with the ability to choose love or reject it.

This plan of God that is being worked out is His once and for all demonstration of the power of love that will endure for all eternity.

For those who choose love they will experience it forever and ever.

For those who reject love, they will experience the absence of love forever and ever.

Praise God that He gave all of us a chance to choose! Oh what a Savior we have in Jesus!

Do you know Him?

 

[B_A]

This is a really cool way to view things but it doesnt really fall in the definition of what people say when they say they believe in god.

For example, you and vibe are both saying you believe in god but your definition of god throws all of his beliefs out the window and his definition of god will have you burning in hell for your belief.

You cant have views that opposing and still say we both believe in god.

Your view is like God is the energy that existed before the bing bang and the energy that is now expanding after the big bang. Not a sentient being. Cool interpretation.

Until my understanding is no longer functional, I shall keep it.

 

[VIBE]

 

[konceptjones]

Love has to be received or rejected. Thus God created beings, Angels and Humans, with the ability to choose love or reject it.

This plan of God that is being worked out is His once and for all demonstration of the power of love that will endure for all eternity.

For those who choose love they will experience it forever and ever.

For those who reject love, they will experience the absence of love forever and ever.

Praise God that He gave all of us a chance to choose! Oh what a Savior we have in Jesus!

Do you know Him?

Here's my issue with this:

I have a particular problem that's been with me since I was very young. I've struggled with it for years. It comes and goes, but shows up when things are going to shit, when I'm at my lowest and most vulnerable. And it causes a shitton of problems in my life, it's caused strife between me and my family on several occasions (in fact, I'm going through the shit right now). It's brought me to a low point I never thought I'd ever hit; below "rock bottom", if you will. I've prayed for help, prayed that it be taken away from me and I get nothing, the problem persists and it gets progressively worse. And when that didn't work, I switched to Buddhism, but lately I've come to realize that Buddhism isn't working for me either. Nothing I do helps and I don't see this ending well at all.

Where was "his love"? When I sat there on my knees crying out for help so many times over the years, why didn't I receive it? Why get worse? And furthermore to this point; why did the bullshit happen to me at such a young age that propelled my life in such a fucked up direction? Where was God's love in all of this? I didn't know anything other that to praise God so young, I didn't know anything but the word as it was taught in church and in school (I went to Catholic schools from Kindergarten through the 4th grade), I didn't know NOT to believe... And yet, the bullshit continued to happen.

Where was his love for me? Where is it now? When I stand to lose everything in my life that I hold dear to my heart; where is it? 'Cause from where I'm sitting right now, on the precipice of losing it all, a little love from God would be most welcome right about now.

But... I doubt you will have an answer for anything like this, just like every other person like you. Nothing concrete, just abstract vagueness and empty hyperbole.

 

[King Freeman]

Here's my issue with this:

I have a particular problem that's been with me since I was very young. I've struggled with it for years. It comes and goes, but shows up when things are going to shit, when I'm at my lowest and most vulnerable. And it causes a shitton of problems in my life, it's caused strife between me and my family on several occasions (in fact, I'm going through the shit right now). It's brought me to a low point I never thought I'd ever hit; below "rock bottom", if you will. I've prayed for help, prayed that it be taken away from me and I get nothing, the problem persists and it gets progressively worse. And when that didn't work, I switched to Buddhism, but lately I've come to realize that Buddhism isn't working for me either. Nothing I do helps and I don't see this ending well at all.

Where was "his love"? When I sat there on my knees crying out for help so many times over the years, why didn't I receive it? Why get worse? And furthermore to this point; why did the bullshit happen to me at such a young age that propelled my life in such a fucked up direction? Where was God's love in all of this? I didn't know anything other that to praise God so young, I didn't know anything but the word as it was taught in church and in school (I went to Catholic schools from Kindergarten through the 4th grade), I didn't know NOT to believe... And yet, the bullshit continued to happen.

Where was his love for me? Where is it now? When I stand to lose everything in my life that I hold dear to my heart; where is it? 'Cause from where I'm sitting right now, on the precipice of losing it all, a little love from God would be most welcome right about now.

But... I doubt you will have an answer for anything like this, just like every other person like you. Nothing concrete, just abstract vagueness and empty hyperbole.

You can't just live a life doing dirt (I ain't claiming to know your life but you done shared enough stories of your past) then get on your hands and knees when shit tough and get mad ya prayers not answered.

Ion think that's how the shit work.

You niggas something else. God is not a genie in a fucking bottle.

 

[GO843]

Here's my issue with this:

I have a particular problem that's been with me since I was very young. I've struggled with it for years. It comes and goes, but shows up when things are going to shit, when I'm at my lowest and most vulnerable. And it causes a shitton of problems in my life, it's caused strife between me and my family on several occasions (in fact, I'm going through the shit right now). It's brought me to a low point I never thought I'd ever hit; below "rock bottom", if you will. I've prayed for help, prayed that it be taken away from me and I get nothing, the problem persists and it gets progressively worse. And when that didn't work, I switched to Buddhism, but lately I've come to realize that Buddhism isn't working for me either. Nothing I do helps and I don't see this ending well at all.

Where was "his love"? When I sat there on my knees crying out for help so many times over the years, why didn't I receive it? Why get worse? And furthermore to this point; why did the bullshit happen to me at such a young age that propelled my life in such a fucked up direction? Where was God's love in all of this? I didn't know anything other that to praise God so young, I didn't know anything but the word as it was taught in church and in school (I went to Catholic schools from Kindergarten through the 4th grade), I didn't know NOT to believe... And yet, the bullshit continued to happen.

Where was his love for me? Where is it now? When I stand to lose everything in my life that I hold dear to my heart; where is it? 'Cause from where I'm sitting right now, on the precipice of losing it all, a little love from God would be most welcome right about now.

But... I doubt you will have an answer for anything like this, just like every other person like you. Nothing concrete, just abstract vagueness and empty hyperbole.

Well, fuck.

I felt that...

 

[konceptjones]

You can't just live a life doing dirt (I ain't claiming to know your life but you done shared enough stories of your past) then get on your hands and knees when shit tough and get mad ya prayers not answered.

Ion think that's how the shit work.

You niggas something else. God is not a genie in a fucking bottle.

This has nothing to do with any of that. Clearly you didn't read what I wrote otherwise you would have seen that this is an issue I've had since I was a very young child... Maybe 4 or 5 years old. God knew the shit would happen to me, and it developed into a lifelong problem I've had to battle even when I was too young to fucking understand what it was. Where was his love back then? I went to church with my family, studied at a Catholic school, and yet shit kept happening to me.

Where was that "love"?

 

[King Freeman]

Lol. Aight b.

 

[VIBE]

Here's my issue with this:

I have a particular problem that's been with me since I was very young. I've struggled with it for years. It comes and goes, but shows up when things are going to shit, when I'm at my lowest and most vulnerable. And it causes a shitton of problems in my life, it's caused strife between me and my family on several occasions (in fact, I'm going through the shit right now). It's brought me to a low point I never thought I'd ever hit; below "rock bottom", if you will. I've prayed for help, prayed that it be taken away from me and I get nothing, the problem persists and it gets progressively worse. And when that didn't work, I switched to Buddhism, but lately I've come to realize that Buddhism isn't working for me either. Nothing I do helps and I don't see this ending well at all.

Where was "his love"? When I sat there on my knees crying out for help so many times over the years, why didn't I receive it? Why get worse? And furthermore to this point; why did the bullshit happen to me at such a young age that propelled my life in such a fucked up direction? Where was God's love in all of this? I didn't know anything other that to praise God so young, I didn't know anything but the word as it was taught in church and in school (I went to Catholic schools from Kindergarten through the 4th grade), I didn't know NOT to believe... And yet, the bullshit continued to happen.

Where was his love for me? Where is it now? When I stand to lose everything in my life that I hold dear to my heart; where is it? 'Cause from where I'm sitting right now, on the precipice of losing it all, a little love from God would be most welcome right about now.

But... I doubt you will have an answer for anything like this, just like every other person like you. Nothing concrete, just abstract vagueness and empty hyperbole.

God isn’t a genie, you can’t pray or wish these things away. Look at the things the men in the Bible endured. Paul went from being Saul the murderer of Christians to one of the most prolific men of the Bible. Even as a man forgiven of being a persecuter of Christians, and a major spreading of the gospel, even he suffered. He was stoned to near death. He was imprisoned in awful conditions. He lost everyone.

Look at Job who lost absolutely everything, from being a wealthy man to being poor and losing his whole family. And they stayed in their faith. It seemed that God didn’t answer them, either, Job even felt that way.

Even Jesus was asking God if there was another way and nothing.

So, you’re not the only one who feels this way. This isn’t about asking for things and them being granted for what you’re going through... I’m not saying you or your family isn’t important, bc you, and them, are. This is about loving and believing in God unconditionally. Your true answers and blessings aren’t here on Earth. They’re in heaven. We are all to endure sufferings. Moses and his people had to do this for 40 years. We are to fight our fights, finish our race and remain in the faith.

 

[konceptjones]

God isn’t a genie, you can’t pray or wish these things away. Look at the things the men in the Bible endured. Paul went from being Saul the murderer of Christians to one of the most prolific men of the Bible. Even as a man forgiven of being a persecuter of Christians, and a major spreading of the gospel, even he suffered. He was stoned to near death. He was imprisoned in awful conditions. He lost everyone.

Look at Job who lost absolutely everything, from being a wealthy man to being poor and losing his whole family. And they stayed in their faith. It seemed that God didn’t answer them, either, Job even felt that way.

Even Jesus was asking God if there was another way and nothing.

So, you’re not the only one who feels this way. This isn’t about asking for things and them being granted for what you’re going through... I’m not saying you or your family isn’t important, bc you, and them, are. This is about loving and believing in God unconditionally. Your true answers and blessings aren’t here on Earth. They’re in heaven. We are all to endure sufferings. Moses and his people had to do this for 40 years. We are to fight our fights, finish our race and remain in the faith.

Matthew 7:7-11: 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

It's not about God being a genie, but he says that if we ask, we will receive. Well, I've been asking for years and never received and instead of being deliverd from my problem, it's gotten worse.