If y’all think Joffrey was Ramsey’s level, y’all weren’t watching the same show. A lot of y’all saying Joffrey would’ve eventually been Ramsey’s level, but I don’t see it. In fact I feel it’s MAD disrespectful to even put Joffrey and Ramsey in the same sentence.
Ramsey was Joker - completely unhinged. Joffrey would’ve never developed into remotely what Ramsey was, especially with Cersei around to reel him in like she would from time to time. Grandpa being around to keep him in place is another factor. Joffrey was violent at times, but Ramsey WAS VIOLENCE! Joffrey could be manipulated and even at times reasoned with.
Ramsey on the other hand was a psychopath! Dude entered the ring by breaking bro code and maiming Theon - and then possibly eating It *pause*. Then he murdered Roose because they didn’t match his crazy. You couldn’t reason with him. He got off on torturing people. He never avoided smoke! After Sansa finally escapes, he sends Jon a letter begging for the fade. Didn’t he skin Sansa’s made, too? He fed his baby brother to his hounds, too. That’s just getting started. Dude was on demon time the entire show.