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Bow to Royalty said:
That's healthy competition though, and makes both parties better. That's different than trying to destroy them and mess up their career.

And also it's a business now (especially at their level), so act like it. Things can evolve and shed some of their old habits.
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I think the only time this "competition" thing will work is on features. It always escalates

This beef is between people that have made great music together. Even albums together and this will most likely be the end to all that.
 
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BlackRain said:
I never said rap isn't competitive I'm saying this idea that rap is the only competitive genre where artists openly beef and have issues, even at times to the point of violence, with each other simply isn't true.

And it tends to be the rule not the exception that the top artists have issues with each other because of how small those spaces are. Go through any genre and you'll see the same petty shit back and forth. The main difference with rap is that it makes into the actual music more, but that don't mean the same animosity doesn't exist between artist in other genres. Shit I already mentioned in this thread 2 of the biggest pop stars in the world spent the good part of the last decade openly hating each other.

Look at rock and roll and take a look at how many bands openly trash other bands and say they can't play, aren't talented, write trash music etc.
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I feel like you're keeping it kinda vague to avoid highlighting how different it is.

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2 of the biggest pop stars in the world spent the good part of the last decade openly hating each other.
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Keeping it general that sounds like some shit has gone down. Be specific though... what's happened in that beef. I'll get you started with Taylor's diss track.



For comparison here's Game dissing Meek



Clearly different but if you're vague you can just say "both genres have people make songs about each other"
 
Bow to Royalty said:
I feel like you're keeping it kinda vague to avoid highlighting how different it is.

Like


Keeping it general that sounds like some shit has gone down. Be specific though... what's happened in that beef. I'll get you started with Taylor's diss track.



For comparison here's Game dissing Meek



Clearly different but if you're vague you can just say "both genres have people make songs about each other"
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You also intentionally left out the part of my post where I said of course rap music is more aggressive in how it's expressed. I never disputed that. What I am disputing is that rap music is the only genre of music where artist openly comptete, diss, and do things to fuck with each others careers.

You've don't remember the entirety of old rock and roll groups openly trashing the rap rock hybrid bands or nu metal? One of the greatest albums of all time Fleetwood Mac Rumors is basically the band saying "fuck you" to each other. r&b singers have legendary behind the scenes beefs that have existed for decades. Shit Babyface was just in some shit just lazy year and had to leave a tour because of beefing with Anita Baker. Pink has been shitting in Chritina Aguilera for over 20 years and has brought literal blow up dolls on stage pretending they're her.

Metaliica said their former bassist Jason Newsted had gotten so bad they literally drowned him out on the last album with him. Shit even Hall and Oats hate each other and have vowed to never perform together again. All this drama and pettiness and hate you claim doesn't exist in other genres has for decades and will continue to as long as everyone is aiming for the top spot in their form of music.
 
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