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I don't fw establishment candidates. They uphold the corrupted system. 3rd party is systematically suppressed so that no worthy candidate would bother pursuing, and any half worthy candidate doesn't have a chance to begin with. It's pointless.

Never voted before

Based on this reasoning there will never be a candidate you vote for other than trump because the only one who fits this description is the current president...other than trump there's never been a non establishment politician to hold office because it's done by rising through the ranks of politics over the years.
 
The average American doesn't know shit about anything. Movements just need enough support to get the right people on board. They generated that much interest and got what they wanted. Part of the reason they got theirs and we haven't gotten ours is because there is a whole lot less of them and they were asking for less. There are 300+ black people in this country, most of which are FBAs. Just giving each of us $10,000 would cost the country a trillion dollars. That's a tough ask and niggas wouldn't even be satisfied with 10K.

I don't agree that we shouldn't help people outside of our country. That said, I don't have a problem with people who don't think we should spend money on aid. However, I do believe that those people should be just as loud in criticizing all the fucked up shit we do in other countries. Don't cry about hitting Africa off with a little aid money if you're ok with us bombing the shit out of African countries because terrorist groups live there.

No, I don't believe every American should have direct control over where his and her tax dollars go. We elect our politicians and politicians vote on agendas. You're supposed to vote for someone whose agenda is in line with your perspective. That's good enough IMO.

Every black person doesn't get reparations. Only the 30-40 million black FBAs.

I agree with that second part.

I disagree, If it's my money, I should be able to see fit to where it goes. I'm giving you my hard earned money, so I should see that it goes to x,y and z
 
What's your method and the DEMS method of FBAs achieving dominance? Just (FBAs)

How do you propose 30-40 million FBAs being dominant and closing the wealth gap?
We need an organized movement that is realistic in its goals. Why are all of these other people getting what they want as you say? It’s not out of the kindness of anyone’s hearts. They coordinated and worked within the system to achieve a goal. They put pressure on politicians and made sure they knew they were the ones putting on the pressure. They lobbied, they got in with the right people.

You want the government to do something and think sitting out of the political process is sending a message. People are more aware of the Dearborn Muslims than they are FBA.

I want the FBA movement to win, that’s why I’m so critical. The current leaders and methods are trash. Just a bunch of blaming and name calling, that’s why nobody takes them seriously.
 
We need an organized movement that is realistic in its goals. Why are all of these other people getting what they want as you say? It’s not out of the kindness of anyone’s hearts. They coordinated and worked within the system to achieve a goal. They put pressure on politicians and made sure they knew they were the ones putting on the pressure. They lobbied, they got in with the right people.

You want the government to do something and think sitting out elections is sending a message. People are more aware of the Dearborn Muslims than they are FBA.

I want the FBA movement to win, that’s why I’m so critical. The current leaders and methods are trash. Just a bunch of blaming and name calling, that’s why nobody takes them seriously.

Let's go with what you said, again, I'm going with ALL THAT YOU"VE SAID and you still haven't produced anything but again, let's go with what you are saying

Wasn't pressure put on Kamala? Wasn't pressure put on the Dems in Cali?? Yes or No

FBAs put pressure on folks just like every other group Yes or no

FBA is not a movement. You keep saying this, it's a lineage bro.

Was pressure put on Biden before he ran by FBAs??


My question to you is, why would Dems leave FBAs "who are their biggest voting group" why would they leave them at the bottom?? Answer this please


If your mother or coach supported your dreams of becoming a basketball player and you made it, would you still keep your number supporter in the hood? or at the bottom struggling



What would ppl call you for doing that to your mother or coach??? Do you think you are seen in a good light for doing that to your folks who helped you get to your goals??
 
Based on this reasoning there will never be a candidate you vote for other than trump because the only one who fits this description is the current president...other than trump there's never been a non establishment politician to hold office because it's done by rising through the ranks of politics over the years.
Yea that would make sense if u only are looking at where u bolded. Look at the next sentences. Is trump worthy or half worthy? Is he 3rd party?

What are we doing
 
Let's go with what you said, again, I'm going with ALL THAT YOU"VE SAID and you still haven't produced anything but again, let's go with what you are saying

Wasn't pressure put on Kamala? Wasn't pressure put on the Dems in Cali?? Yes or No

FBAs put pressure on folks just like every other group Yes or no

FBA is not a movement. You keep saying this, it's a lineage bro.

Was pressure put on Biden before he ran by FBAs??


My question to you is, why would Dems leave FBAs "who are their biggest voting group" why would they leave them at the bottom?? Answer this please


If your mother or coach supported your dreams of becoming a basketball player and you made it, would you still keep your number supporter in the hood? or at the bottom struggling



What would ppl call you for doing that to your mother or coach??? Do you think you are seen in a good light for doing that to your folks who helped you get to your goals??
Bottom line, you are reparations or nothing, right? What is anyone doing on a national level to make that happen? Since it didn’t happen in Cali, then obviously we don’t have enough leverage. Those who are reparations or nothing need to build that leverage. Stop thinking anyone is just going to hand it to us. If it takes more people to get that leverage, stop being divisive and convince people to join the cause. Get a better gameplan. Just do better.
 
Let's go with what you said, again, I'm going with ALL THAT YOU"VE SAID and you still haven't produced anything but again, let's go with what you are saying

Wasn't pressure put on Kamala? Wasn't pressure put on the Dems in Cali?? Yes or No

FBAs put pressure on folks just like every other group Yes or no

FBA is not a movement. You keep saying this, it's a lineage bro.

Was pressure put on Biden before he ran by FBAs??


My question to you is, why would Dems leave FBAs "who are their biggest voting group" why would they leave them at the bottom?? Answer this please


If your mother or coach supported your dreams of becoming a basketball player and you made it, would you still keep your number supporter in the hood? or at the bottom struggling



What would ppl call you for doing that to your mother or coach??? Do you think you are seen in a good light for doing that to your folks who helped you get to your goals??
By the way, it should be a movement. That’s problem number 1. Nothing gets done without a movement.
 
Bottom line, you are reparations or nothing, right? What is anyone doing on a national level to make that happen? Since it didn’t happen in Cali, then obviously we don’t have enough leverage. Those who are reparations or nothing need to build that leverage. Stop thinking anyone is just going to hand it to us. If it takes more people to get that leverage, stop being divisive and convince people to join the cause. Get a better gameplan. Just do better.

I made a thread. Hop in there.
 
Yea that would make sense if u only are looking at where u bolded. Look at the next sentences. Is trump worthy or half worthy? Is he 3rd party?

What are we doing

Even using the rest for context the same conclusion can be drawn. You show why you think voting for a 3rd party candidate is pointless because of suppression. That doesn't negate the qualifications you listed that would make you support a candidate and who currently fits that definition.
 
Even using the rest for context the same conclusion can be drawn. You show why you think voting for a 3rd party candidate is pointless because of suppression. That doesn't negate the qualifications you listed that would make you support a candidate and who currently fits that definition.
It does negate it bc he's running in a Republican ticket and they are or contain establishment politicians.

And even if I agreed with that qualified alone isn't enough. I have to actually like their policies

You're implying that hypothetically if a dog fit those qualifications I'd vote for it.
 
It does negate it bc he's running in a Republican ticket and they are or contain establishment politicians.

And even if I agreed with that qualified alone isn't enough. I have to actually like their policies

You're implying that hypothetically if a dog fit those qualifications I'd vote for it.

You're talking about the party now when initially what was posed was about individual candidates not the parties as a whole they're attached to. Now you're adding the additonal qualifiers of party and their policies. Your initial answer didn't say that. Just that they had to not be an "establishment candidate"
 
You're talking about the party now when initially what was posed was about individual candidates not the parties as a whole they're attached to. Now you're adding the additonal qualifiers of party and their policies. Your initial answer didn't say that. Just that they had to not be an "establishment candidate"
Did I not point to the following sentences that u conveniently didn't bold where I specified 3rd party?
 
Based on this reasoning there will never be a candidate you vote for other than trump because the only one who fits this description is the current president...other than trump there's never been a non establishment politician to hold office because it's done by rising through the ranks of politics over the years.

is that what you took from what he said? not asking him to participate in primary process, just vote blue no matter who and lesser evil voting?

There is no such thing as harm reduction voting in this day and age
 
is that what you took from what he said? not asking him to participate in primary process, just vote blue no matter who and lesser evil voting?

There is no such thing as harm reduction voting in this day and age
There’s always a such thing as harm reduction. By nature, there’s always something less harmful than another.
 
There’s always a such thing as harm reduction. By nature, there’s always something less harmful than another.

No its not, have you heard of the ratchet effect?

You also dont understand what the role of liberals when it comes to US politics. Their sole job is to stand in the way of progress and stop leftist momentum inside the democratic party.

You really dont want things to really get better, you just want a hug box and the status quo. You don't want learn, you just go along with what they tell you. You allow them to manufacture your consent.

 
is that what you took from what he said? not asking him to participate in primary process, just vote blue no matter who and lesser evil voting?

There is no such thing as harm reduction voting in this day and age

No that's not it at all. I was looking at what would qualify someone to gain his vote. I'm not a Democrat. I've said that many times on this board.
 
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