COMMUNITY United States Politics Thread: Trump's Second Term

[Lab Baby]

I want to extend this question to the Democratic members in here, I would like you to policies that will get 30-40 million FBAs out of the hole, closing the wealth gap. You can't use reparations nor can you give "direct" polices to FBAs since that would be considered putting other groups down such as black/white immigrants, white folks, Asians, etc.

Just 3 or 4 policies or ways that YOU can come up to present to your Democratic Party that will get 30-40 million (FBAs) out of the hole.
In this example, if you can't list 2, 3 or 4 policies, you will lose all 30-40 million (FBAs) vote.


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If you got jokes or something, don't worry yourself asking, this is a serious question.




How will you narrow the gap without bringing others down is what I am asking you??

You keep talking in "words" I'm asking you to show your work?

Tell us how would you do this??

Bring up 30 million black folks (FBAs) without bringing down other groups and you stated that you are not a fan of "direct" policies to just 1 particular group, you said that reparations won't be a thing

So give us 3 ways/policies that you can explain to us how you will bring up 30-40 million (FBAS) to close that wealth gap without bringing down or elevating other groups such as black immigrants/white immigrants, Asians, white folks etc. without giving "direct" policies to the group (FBAs) that's at the bottom


Go, yo ass is on the clock. Tell us democratic party member since you want (FBAs) vote. Tell us how will you and your party will bring us outta this hole and close the wealth gap without elevating others and bringing other groups down. No reparations or direct polices for 1 particular group.

Tell us how your party's plan will work. Go

In this example, if you can't bring us outta of the hole we are in, or name 3 things policies etc, you will lose all 40 million FBA votes

Go.

It's just a example.

Go

I'm a socialist... leave me out of this.

But to answer your question, in my opinion reparations is the only thing the gov't can give FBAs that we ask for. Food, clothing, shelter and business opportunities should be available to every American citizen on general principle. But when it comes to FBAs, slavery and its after effects are still obstacles for us. That wound has to be healed first and foremost. My draft of a reparations plan is an voluntary incentive program to reconnect us with our homeland and bloodline as well as apply for dual citizenship. That would include free access to DNA testing, language courses and business loans to build our own foundation within our homeland, among other things. Of course it's a super rough draft and questions will/ought to be asked about it, but in its most refined form it would deal with our separate issue without getting in anyone else's way. The Saudis just flexed 500B to give to us for an AI program so I don't wanna hear ppl say it can't be financed.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Lord which one of these Off Brand Negroes said something about bringing other groups down? Lmao

And y'all wonder why I call ABW the plantation

Prioritizing what Others think is what they do best

They are threatened by the pro Black Agenda so they pushback



Even without reparations LINEAGE based policy is the only way to close the wealth gap

there's plenty of racial religious and sexuality based policies in existence

Why not lineage based?

Thats not a handout, it's getting back the equity our ancestors put into this country. Very simple

I don't really have a solution that doesn't directly compensate us the way we were directly stolen from

He said giving "direct" policies to 30-40 million FBAs will put down other groups. He said reparations won't work or get paid out to FBAs

I said cool, I'm not bout to fuss on that, I just pivot

List your policies that you or a party member has insight that will close the wealth gap for 30-40 million (FBAs) without elevating or putting down other groups such as black/white immigrants, Asians, White folks etc.

I'm still waiting on the answers/policies. I extended the question to the other democratic members that's on that ship

No harm, I just want to know how their party can close the wealth gap without for FBAs without elevating other groups or putting them down


It's fucking crickets in here? I just wanna know


I even added a bonus to it, if they can come up with policies to that questions, they can get every vote from that's of the 40 million FBAs that's voting

 

[Knock_Twice]

I'm a socialist... leave me out of this.

But to answer your question, in my opinion reparations is the only thing the gov't can give FBAs that we ask for. Food, clothing, shelter and business opportunities should be available to every American citizen on general principle. But when it comes to FBAs, slavery and its after effects are still obstacles for us. That wound has to be healed first and foremost. My draft of a reparations plan is an voluntary incentive program to reconnect us with our homeland and bloodline as well as apply for dual citizenship. That would include free access to DNA testing, language courses and business loans to build our own foundation within our homeland, among other things. Of course it's a super rough draft and questions will/ought to be asked about it, but in its most refined form it would deal with our separate issue without getting in anyone else's way. The Saudis just flexed 500B to give to us for an AI program so I don't wanna hear ppl say it can't be financed.

You can't use reparations as an answer. We not gettin that....so what other ways can the wealth gap be closed for 30-40 million FBAs without direct policies and without elevating and putting down other groups?

Any other ways??

I'm just asking for answer from those who want that Vote from the many FBAS who are concerned about getting outta the hole and closing that wealth gap??

 

[Knock_Twice]

And please, please, don't get mad at big ole me, this is just question that I would like to know from the Dems who want my vote.

We just chopping it up, barbershop talk where I'm from, block shit

I want my people to get outta this hole we've been in for the last ummm x amount of years....

What you got for me yall??

 

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If this was the barbershop, I'd give a nigga 1,000 dollars if they can bring 3 policies to my question that's gonna change my mind

 

[TheNightKing]

He said giving "direct" policies to 30-40 million FBAs will put down other groups. He said reparations won't work or get paid out to FBAs

I said cool, I'm not bout to fuss on that, I just pivot

List your policies that you or a party member has insight that will close the wealth gap for 30-40 million (FBAs) without elevating or putting down other groups such as black/white immigrants, Asians, White folks etc.

I'm still waiting on the answers/policies. I extended the question to the other democratic members that's on that ship

No harm, I just want to know how their party can close the wealth gap without for FBAs without elevating other groups or putting them down


It's fucking crickets in here? I just wanna know


I even added a bonus to it, if they can come up with policies to that questions, they can get every vote from that's of the 40 million FBAs that's voting

I never said giving direct FBA policies would put other groups down. That’s what you took from it. What I said is I want to close the gap by bringing us up. I don’t give a fuck if other groups go up, down, left, right, whatever. I care about us.

Y’all be too damn focused on everybody else. If we have a level playing field I know we’ll dominate everything because I have faith in us. I don’t need to have the government bring everybody else down because I know we’ll be far superior if we weren’t constantly hamstrung.

You want handouts, I want to dominate.

 

[Lab Baby]

You can't use reparations as an answer. We not gettin that....so what other ways can the wealth gap be closed for 30-40 million FBAs without direct policies and without elevating and putting down other groups?

Any other ways??

I'm just asking for answer from those who want that Vote from the many FBAS who are concerned about getting outta the hole and closing that wealth gap??

Then this country burns. Clearly this administration is not trying to close that gap, in fact they don't want a gap at all because that implies that there has to be competition there to create that gap. The gov't has been putting bandaids on the slavery issue for decades and they're paying for it via a cpl of egocentric billionaires and a white supremacist think tank. Everyone's stepping on each other's fingers trying to get an extra 100k a year, while the one thing that would ironically get us all out the way continues to get ignored. You fix the slavery issue, we no longer have a codependent relationship with the gov't. So yeah, single issue policies are just gonna be temporary solutions til a Trump 2.0 decides he wants to Make America White Again. If you're trying to make a point with this question, point proven I guess. But don't ask us to give a fuck when gov't programs we don't even use get shut down or niggas get thrown in the pokey for celebrating Kwanzaa in the Pentagon.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Many people don't know the history of them Asians, I did not learn about in school and those folks still got paid. I did not learn about other folks who got paid with reparations. That history was not known to the black community.

How do you feel about the USAid being stripped? What's your take on it.....

I heard that it takes tax money away from the US citizens here and that money is used to fund those programs to fatten the pockets of those over these programs. I heard that the resources usually don't get to the people that it needs to get to.

What are you thoughts on this whole USAid situation

Has this been discussed, I'd like to hear you all opinions on this ordeal

They just got paid though. The reason why they got paid is because they had a coordinated effort over the past few decades to highlight the grievance and push for it to be redressed. In other words, they had to get the information out there. You didn't learn about it when you were coming up, but people nowadays do. That's part of the reason they had support on their side.

I think USAid should be able to operate how it should. Helping other countries deal wit diseases and other issues is not a bad thing. The U.S. causes a lot of problems in countries around the world, so we should invest money into also helping out.

Does it use our tax dollars? Yes, but it's <1% of the budget. It's not the reason why we aren't getting the help we need. The DoD wastes a ton of money that could be used to better care for the people, but the government never addresses that. Hell if we're going to curb foreign spending, we should be cutting off Israel. Why should we be funding their genocide. They are just using that program as a scapegoat to take attention away from the real problems. It would be like a person blaming their inability to pay their bills on the dollar they slipped to a homeless person the other day rather than the $1200 a month car note they're paying because they wanted a Porsche instead of a Hyundai.

 

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[Knock_Twice]

I never said giving direct FBA policies would put other groups down. That’s what you took from it. What I said is I want to close the gap by bringing us up. I don’t give a fuck if other groups go up, down, left, right, whatever. I care about us.

Y’all be too damn focused on everybody else. If we have a level playing field I know we’ll dominate everything because I have faith in us. I don’t need to have the government bring everybody else down because I know we’ll be far superior if we weren’t constantly hamstrung.

You want handouts, I want to dominate.

What's your method and the DEMS method of FBAs achieving dominance? Just (FBAs)

How do you propose 30-40 million FBAs being dominant and closing the wealth gap?

 

[Knock_Twice]

Then this country burns. Clearly this administration is not trying to close that gap, in fact they don't want a gap at all because that implies that there has to be competition there to create that gap. The gov't has been putting bandaids on the slavery issue for decades and they're paying for it via a cpl of egocentric billionaires and a white supremacist think tank. Everyone's stepping on each other's fingers trying to get an extra 100k a year, while the one thing that would ironically get us all out the way continues to get ignored. You fix the slavery issue, we no longer have a codependent relationship with the gov't. So yeah, single issue policies are just gonna be temporary solutions til a Trump 2.0 decides he wants to Make America White Again. If you're trying to make a point with this question, point proven I guess. But don't ask us to give a fuck when gov't programs we don't even use get shut down or niggas get thrown in the pokey for celebrating Kwanzaa in the Pentagon.

The question can't be answered without FBAs getting reparations and policies being directly created for FBAs "lineage" based.

If this is the ONLY way or ways to close the wealth gap, why black/white immigrants, and black dems who refuse to see this logic are upset with "couch" gang? when it's all about closing the wealth gap for FBAs. redirecting sources to the people who need it the most? without having others get it.

Why is it the fuss about "couch" gang when NEITHER PARTY WILL DO SUCH A THING.

Why is there an uproar towards those who see this play and choose to sit out because there is no hope to get 30-40 million FBAs outta the hole without doing both options?

 

[Knock_Twice]

Then this country burns. Clearly this administration is not trying to close that gap, in fact they don't want a gap at all because that implies that there has to be competition there to create that gap. The gov't has been putting bandaids on the slavery issue for decades and they're paying for it via a cpl of egocentric billionaires and a white supremacist think tank. Everyone's stepping on each other's fingers trying to get an extra 100k a year, while the one thing that would ironically get us all out the way continues to get ignored. You fix the slavery issue, we no longer have a codependent relationship with the gov't. So yeah, single issue policies are just gonna be temporary solutions til a Trump 2.0 decides he wants to Make America White Again. If you're trying to make a point with this question, point proven I guess. But don't ask us to give a fuck when gov't programs we don't even use get shut down or niggas get thrown in the pokey for celebrating Kwanzaa in the Pentagon.

Is this logic/question that I presented a hard thing to understand??? Why do you think posters like Night, Mister, Gray Matter, other black immigrants see this logic and don't like it??

If you can see and understand the question/logic, why is it that those "others" can't seem to get it or jump on board?? Or is it that they they DO understand it, but they see that they have no benefits in the equation??

We podding now.

 

[Knock_Twice]

They just got paid though. The reason why they got paid is because they had a coordinated effort over the past few decades to highlight the grievance and push for it to be redressed. In other words, they had to get the information out there. You didn't learn about it when you were coming up, but people nowadays do. That's part of the reason they had support on their side.

I think USAid should be able to operate how it should. Helping other countries deal wit diseases and other issues is not a bad thing. The U.S. causes a lot of problems in countries around the world, so we should invest money into also helping out.

Does it use our tax dollars? Yes, but it's <1% of the budget. It's not the reason why we aren't getting the help we need. The DoD wastes a ton of money that could be used to better care for the people, but the government never addresses that. Hell if we're going to curb foreign spending, we should be cutting off Israel. Why should we be funding their genocide. They are just using that program as a scapegoat to take attention away from the real problems. It would be like a person blaming their inability to pay their bills on the dollar they slipped to a homeless person the other day rather than the $1200 a month car note they're paying because they wanted a Porsche instead of a Hyundai.

Ppl still don't know about this situation, the average black person doesn't know about this..... What support did they have?? From who?? outside of Asians?
What black person was supporting this issue?

I agreed with Scapegoat thing about Israel

How do you feel about folks who are saying that they don't want their tax dollars to be used on other things but the things that will benefit the U.S. Diseases' that the U.S. themselves create to kill off folks with dark skin

Should Americans be given the right to pick and choose where their tax dollars be allocated to?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Ppl still don't know about this situation, the average black person doesn't know about this..... What support did they have?? From who?? outside of Asians?
What black person was supporting this issue?

I agreed with Scapegoat thing about Israel

How do you feel about folks who are saying that they don't want their tax dollars to be used on other things but the things that will benefit the U.S. Diseases' that the U.S. themselves create to kill off folks with dark skin

Should Americans be given the right to pick and choose where their tax dollars be allocated to?

The average American doesn't know shit about anything. Movements just need enough support to get the right people on board. They generated that much interest and got what they wanted. Part of the reason they got theirs and we haven't gotten ours is because there is a whole lot less of them and they were asking for less. There are 300+ black people in this country, most of which are FBAs. Just giving each of us $10,000 would cost the country a trillion dollars. That's a tough ask and niggas wouldn't even be satisfied with 10K.

I don't agree that we shouldn't help people outside of our country. That said, I don't have a problem with people who don't think we should spend money on aid. However, I do believe that those people should be just as loud in criticizing all the fucked up shit we do in other countries. Don't cry about hitting Africa off with a little aid money if you're ok with us bombing the shit out of African countries because terrorist groups live there.

No, I don't believe every American should have direct control over where his and her tax dollars go. We elect our politicians and politicians vote on agendas. You're supposed to vote for someone whose agenda is in line with your perspective. That's good enough IMO.

 

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