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OPINION The Wire - A Hindsight Discussion
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PhenomTheMac
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Stringer was wrong about all 3.
Wallace wasn't a snitch. Dee was gonna eat them years and just wanted to be left out of the game. And fucking on Dee's girl was another step away from Avon who in the end was the only person who could have saved him.
Stringer is wrong about literally everything the show doesn't even try to portray it as a question. He gets gatted down by the two men he misread in the very building he was getting rain made in. He lost in both worlds. Meanwhile the game comes to a halt when Avon walks across the field. The king remains the king.
I’m more so talking about the gant murder that put mcnulty onto them in the first place
Wallace was a snitch, he talked about Omar's bf getting killed
PhenomTheMac
OG
You right. Alright so fair play on that 1. He should've told Dee since it involved his crew. But he was mired in a pissing contest with him from episode 1 since he was jealous of the relationship DAngelo had with Avon.
Jimmy was on them before the Gant murder.
He was just the only one in the dept that gave AF
He wasn't wrong about Dee either
While String may have thought Wallace was snitchin', he knew Dee was bout to flip til his mama convinced him otherwise.
Like I've said thru out this thread, String was 100% right in killing Dee. Him and Avon order killings for people who did less.
If Dee wasn't Avon's nephew and buck'd at him like he did in prison. Avon would've made sure he had some of that rat poison too.
The Barksdale crew would still be operating if Stringer had got his way. He was low key and kept the crew low key. I don't think any bodies was dropping on a regular. Avon got out and fucked everything up trying to run the game like the old days
PhenomTheMac
OG
When Stringer, a Queen, meets Marlo, Stringer is moving all over the place trying to school him about this and that. Marlo, a King, stands in place, none of Stringers shit is affecting him. Marlo just takes the game Stringer gives him and disregards the rest. Afterwards he IMMEDIATELY tells his crew to tool up, because he correctly sees that Stringer is weak. Wasn't no way to avoid the war that was coming.
When Avon, THE King, meets Marlo he catches him by surprise. Literally mirrors him to the point he can't move and has the boy looking over his shoulder looking for the hit. The game runs through Avon and for that he gets paid tribute. Avon comes off the connect because he correctly sees that Marlo is too wild to keep it.
Avon has it set up to get out early for him and his nephew that Stringer foolishly put down, behind Avon's back mind you. And when Avon returns what awaits him? His right hand man holding the connect. Barksdale crew IS still operating. Until then Avon lives his life in prison as a king.
Stringer? He got his way. He had the co opt and tried to reason with Marlo. He also lied to Brother. Reasoning with Marlo? Yeah we seen how that went with Joe. Took that co-opt and told em the price was going up. Lying to Brother? Ended up riddled with bullets. He treated his business like a gangster and his gangster like a business and failed at both. Went against his own shit due to hubris, wouldn't let Poot have the floor even though Poot was right. Tried to have Davis assassinated (!) for outplaying him.
It just keeps going like this. Literally every move he makes shows it. Avon is right about it all. And he maneuvers himself to victory by sacrificing his queen in exchange for guiding his pawn to replace her. Had Stringer listened to Avon, Marlo woulda been dropped. Had he asked for counsel from Avon he woulda never gotten in the mess with Brother (You asked him that? WHY?!). Had he not alienated Avon, Avon would've saved his life since he was in position to do so. Can't be playing checkers on no chess board.
Is there a vid of the bolded ? I been looking for this for awhile
Inori
NAWF
you know I loved this part because I knew exactly why Avon would be upset
But now I can’t remember why lol
You run it as you see fit -Avon
String's way was working until Avon got out trying to war over corners they didn't even need anymore. They had the good dope, wasn't beefing with anyone and everyone was getting work working with prop joe. Marlo was just a rag tag crew who wasn't a threat until Avon went fucking with him
Avon looked down on those business classes but they was working
PhenomTheMac
OG
Stringer was beefing with the same dudes that would end up killing him. He was just too dense to realize it.
Marlo was a rag tag outfit that ran Bodie and them off their corner. They lost the towers and *had* to get back on the street. Stringer ain't have the heart for it. Joe didn't take Marlo as a threat either and we seen what his generosity got him.
Elzo69Renaissance
These scars are the only real proof they could not
Stringer was right when Avon got outta prison Stringer gave him a condo and told him this shit is clean no drug money connection…..
That was his ultimate plan , move the drug money into clean shit then leave the game behind
Unfortunately like D pointed out while he was snitching gangsterism is all they know and that’s how Avon was moving
That was his ultimate plan , move the drug money into clean shit then leave the game behind
Unfortunately like D pointed out while he was snitching gangsterism is all they know and that’s how Avon was moving
PhenomTheMac
OG
"But instead of the old gods, The Wire is a Greek tragedy in which the postmodern institutions are the Olympian forces. It’s the police department, or the drug economy, or the political structures, or the school administration, or the macroeconomic forces that are throwing the lightning bolts and hitting people in the ass for no decent reason. In much of television, and in a good deal of our stage drama, individuals are often portrayed as rising above institutions to achieve catharsis. In this drama, the institutions always prove larger, and those characters with hubris enough to challenge the postmodern construct of American empire are invariably mocked, marginalized, or crushed."
"He simply said Stringer thought he had found a way to beat the game, and the game cannot be reformed"
"He simply said Stringer thought he had found a way to beat the game, and the game cannot be reformed"
PhenomTheMac
OG
Stringer thought he was above the game. Lying to Brother, going behind Avon's back, taking a shot at Omar during Sunday truce, not going at Marlo.
He, like McNulty, Bunny Colvin, and others thought he was gonna change the game. And the Wire tells you directly that, that was never going to happen.
Stringer came up with the co-opt which put him at immediate odds with his own partner and boss. Well that came to a head when it was time to take out Marlo. The co-opt was ready to kick Stringer out of his own shit if he didn't stop Avon from staying on the warpath. So Stringer had to go against Avon, even though Avon was proven to be right.
There was only 1 way to deal with Marlo, who rightly saw that the co-opt was fat from success and wouldn't stop him from his advances. All that business talk from Stringer but he still couldn't see that Marlo was a hostile takeover in motion. He couldn't see it because he wasn't smart enough or hard enough. That's why his body was riddled with bullets in the end. Like his ideas all you want but his ideas have a very clear endpoint. Ain't no way around it, Avon still breathing, Stringer's not. King remains the king.
He, like McNulty, Bunny Colvin, and others thought he was gonna change the game. And the Wire tells you directly that, that was never going to happen.
Stringer came up with the co-opt which put him at immediate odds with his own partner and boss. Well that came to a head when it was time to take out Marlo. The co-opt was ready to kick Stringer out of his own shit if he didn't stop Avon from staying on the warpath. So Stringer had to go against Avon, even though Avon was proven to be right.
There was only 1 way to deal with Marlo, who rightly saw that the co-opt was fat from success and wouldn't stop him from his advances. All that business talk from Stringer but he still couldn't see that Marlo was a hostile takeover in motion. He couldn't see it because he wasn't smart enough or hard enough. That's why his body was riddled with bullets in the end. Like his ideas all you want but his ideas have a very clear endpoint. Ain't no way around it, Avon still breathing, Stringer's not. King remains the king.
Elzo69Renaissance
These scars are the only real proof they could not
Bro the co opt was too stop street beefs and share the plug Prop Joe had
Nothing wrong with that
Nothing wrong with that
PhenomTheMac
OG
Agreed. But the co opt didn't put a stop to Marlo when it could have. And Marlo dismantled the co opt.
Ultimately, it didn't work.