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ChicagoFigure said:
Also, studies show antibodies alone aren't enough to determine immunity. Memory B cells (which remember how to make antibodies when needed/reinfected) are at least as robust, if not more, in natural infection.
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Haven't checked but here's a new article that in assuming is based on the study except more emphasis on children:

www.google.com

Covid infection 'produces stronger immune response than the vaccine'

Memory B cells continue to evolve and get stronger for at least several months after natural infection, producing antibodies that can neutralise new variants. Vaccines induce less B cells.
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While antibodies wane around 6 months for both vaxxed and naturally immune, the memory b cells are more important bc they can produce antibodies when it's needed again. This is more robust in Nat immunity than vaxx shots.

And considering kids are naturally better protected from Covid severity and hospitalization/death, it's not as necessary to vaxx them all. Delta comes with an increase in cases due to heightened transmission but not increase in severity.
 
I do not intend to wish ill on anyone, but will the pro-vaccination crowd support regular shots, perhaps annually? It scares me how large the herd of sheep has become. You threaten to take away people's freedom to play outside and they just fall in line like children? So far this whole situation is becoming more suspicious by the week; the government is bribing people to take a vaccine that has no stopped the infection rate. The government does not care about people's health, let alone enough to bribe them to care...if that is the case, where is that awesome universal healthcare that would allow people to take better care of themselves? None of this seems odd to people?
 
Rates went up because of the Delta variant and it's increased transmissibility coupled with vaccinated folks lax precautions and vaccine hesitancy and distrust.

It's not really that big of a mystery and the answers are out there. Unless you don't accept the explanations, but then that's another discussion.
 
TheNightKing said:
Rates went up because of the Delta variant and it's increased transmissibility coupled with vaccinated folks lax precautions and vaccine hesitancy and distrust.

It's not really that big of a mystery and the answers are out there. Unless you don't accept the explanations, but then that's another discussion.
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Nah, delta became big news long after that shit, who knows maybe delta was their escape goat. Couple week there it's all the news could talk about, last few weeks barely anything being written about delta.
 
Loneshot said:
I do not intend to wish ill on anyone, but will the pro-vaccination crowd support regular shots, perhaps annually? It scares me how large the herd of sheep has become. You threaten to take away people's freedom to play outside and they just fall in line like children? So far this whole situation is becoming more suspicious by the week; the government is bribing people to take a vaccine that has no stopped the infection rate. The government does not care about people's health, let alone enough to bribe them to care...if that is the case, where is that awesome universal healthcare that would allow people to take better care of themselves? None of this seems odd to people?
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If this were an US specific issue then this would have some validity to it...but seeing as how this affecting the entire planet then making it into an issue about 1 country doesn't really make sense
 
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