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The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona

Hundredeyes said:
Yeah I’m not from Canada buddy (sorry) but @King Freeman , @Sion and @B_A are fam.

Are the Canadians cool with this, do they want Trudeau to get sacked etc what’s going on?

Seems like a very American - and Chinese - thing Canada is doing here, I thought y’all were more reasonable like the Scandinavian nations: great healthcare system, down to earth government etc, Denmark, Sweden, Norway etc style who ironically are done with Covid - life went back to normal without restrictions there last month - and they did it without mandates and with sound scientific reason regarding natural through infection required immunity etc.
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Please don't @me when it comes to this guy czar.
 
Sion said:
While I believe everyone should have the right to decide what they want to do regarding the vaccine, my only gripe with the anti-vaxxers is they can never seem to acknowledge that the vaccine may actually work and has scientific evidence it does. Not even acknowledgement in the least bit. Their stance is it "doesn't" work at all.

Both things can be right and when you get to the base of the conversation, people just don't want to get it for better or worse. The research is there tho. The overwhelming consensus tho is that it does protect you from serious and long-term effects of covid-19.
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why support making it mandatory than fam? And forgive my ignorance, but what is the Canadian governments endgame? When are the mandates lifted etc
 
Sion said:
While I believe everyone should have the right to decide what they want to do regarding the vaccine, my only gripe with the anti-vaxxers is they can never seem to acknowledge that the vaccine may actually work and has scientific evidence it does. Not even acknowledgement in the least bit. Their stance is it "doesn't" work at all.

Both things can be right and when you get to the base of the conversation, people just don't want to get it for better or worse. The research is there tho. The overwhelming consensus tho is that it does protect you from serious and long-term effects of covid-19.
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It can also harm some of us.
 
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U.S Scientist Linked to Wuhan Lab Funding and Cover Up Faces Calls to Quit

Scientists have asked U.S. research group EcoHealth Alliance to drop Daszak as its president, after the organization proposed enhancing viruses as part of coronavirus research.
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^^^^this is the research the Rand Paul v Fauci back n forth was based on. That $600k came from NIH as a grant. Shi Zenghli is the one who conducted said research, sometimes referred to as 'Bat Woman'.


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^^^^that guy Jamie Metzl (member of WHO at the time). Read the description "expert advisory committee including oversight of human genome editing"....in the clip below refers to the research as gain of function.


@8:05-12:35

"riight"

Then at 4:35-8:35
 
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Sion said:
While I believe everyone should have the right to decide what they want to do regarding the vaccine, my only gripe with the anti-vaxxers is they can never seem to acknowledge that the vaccine may actually work and has scientific evidence it does. Not even acknowledgement in the least bit. Their stance is it "doesn't" work at all.

Both things can be right and when you get to the base of the conversation, people just don't want to get it for better or worse. The research is there tho. The overwhelming consensus tho is that it does protect you from serious and long-term effects of covid-19.
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That's not the stance of Anti-vaxxers. it's that covid ain't shit for most, and they don't want to take a vaccine they don't need.

More than that, fuck anyone who supports forcing this on people. Take it, don't take it, that's your right
 
Sion said:
Honestly I don't care whether or not it's mandatory, I got mine so I'm not affected. Certain diseases people have such as Multiple Sclerosis and others, have every right to not take the vaccine but that aint the majority of yall.

As for Canadian government, I dont do conspiracy theories and since parties are only there short term, if Trudeau was doing the bare minimum for covid he'd be getting dragged through the mud and would've lost the election. Regardless of how you feel there are many who've died from covid-19 so the public response to deal with the pandemic is warranted and government will react to this.


The length of mandates no one knows, in the past you had to present a vaccination card against certain diseases to get into most public and private schools. I think after 90% are vaxxed restaurants and public events wont have to abide but the mandate for employers, schools and federal employees will be indefinite, which makes sense, there will be those who will get it and take advantage to get months off work WITH pay (work pay for disability, etc.) some may be truthful some wont on top of the lawsuits from getting covid at work. Most people and companies dont want to go to court. So I understand the POV for employers.
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So you don’t care and are just assuming things fam? Trudeau coalition has no ‘plan des campagne’ or endgame/ a way out of the crisis like in other (western and modern) countries? No goals/scenarios regarding a vaccination rate/natural immunity region, nation, industry and sector wide etc? The Scandinavian countries for example had a dashboard with a game plan before they lifted all restrictions , same goes for Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Japan, Korea etc …

You’re not ‘done’ being vaccinated btw, you stated that you support a vaccine passport but do you realize that with said passport, you need to get a shot every 6/9/12 months and if you don’t, your vaccine passport will expire (cause that’s what they’re pushing worldwide right now and has already been implemented in Israel, real life shit no conspiracy tin foiled hat here fam)… You’re going to get a third, fourth etc shot. The Rona is here to stay/endemic and the Pfizer, JnJ etc vaccines are less than 50% effective against the Rona after 6 months…

I’m vaccinated for a shipload a things - from yellow fever to mengitis etc - but not Covid-19 cause I already had it and my government states I don’t need a vaccine if I already had it based on actual medical science… what I don’t understand is that you’re saying that people with MS and other horrible diseases have the right to not take a vaccine cause you’re a : ignoring the fact that in your home country, those poor people cannot travel by plane, train etc due to Trudeau’s mandate and B : apparently ignore that everyone has the right to decide their own medical treatment/self determination/human rights…
 
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