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Knicks play so much more fluid without Julius Randle but he gives em an alpha presence that nobody else on the team has. Its almost like he punks niggas out the ball when he on the court lol.
 
Knicks play so much more fluid without Julius Randle but he gives em an alpha presence that nobody else on the team has. Its almost like he punks niggas out the ball when he on the court lol.
Go back n forth with fans on twitter about this

im checked out on Randle, he actually ain’t been that bad lately either
 
Serious question

What is it that you want to see from someone who is still learning the game 30+ games into his career?

To be yelling at teammates? Leading pre game chants? Jumping off the bench when a teammate scores?

How can you look at such a small sample size and project the longevity of his career off that? I'm genuinely curious
I think this is a false generic way of look at leadership. I look for communication, attention to detail, holding players accountable and themselves, putting up shots after games, doing the little thing on the court like setting screens and calling out zone plays even when the ball is not getting to you (Zion has been known for playing with low energy and effort if he doesn't get his points) it's just small things like that. I don't care about all the screaming and ra ra stuff on the court. Tim Duncan was an amazing leader but one of the most chilled reserved players ever. It's all about doing WHATEVER is necessary to win games and making sure other teammates are doing so, and Zion did this at Duke but not in the NBA.
 
My guy you’re talking about a boy

hes a baby. He hasn’t even had a full rookie campaign

babies don’t win in the NBA. Y’all talking about a rookie(experience wise) playing bad defense. most of them play bad defense, they don’t understand yet.

he don’t even have vets to learn from. This is where NBAtv could step up their programming so fans stop individualizing the sport so much and creating unrealistic expectations
He is a baby, but I just want to know where effort and better basketball habits went from Duke Zion to NBA. Nigga barely runs back to the court even when rested in critical moments of the game
 
I think this is a false generic way of look at leadership. I look for communication, attention to detail, holding players accountable and themselves, putting up shots after games, doing the little thing on the court like setting screens and calling out zone plays even when the ball is not getting to you (Zion has been known for playing with low energy and effort if he doesn't get his points) it's just small things like that. I don't care about all the screaming and ra ra stuff on the court. Tim Duncan was an amazing leader but one of the most chilled reserved players ever. It's all about doing WHATEVER is necessary to win games and making sure other teammates are doing so, and Zion did this at Duke but not in the NBA.
A 6-7 year vet on his second contract? Absolutely

A dude that hasn't played 40 professional NBA games? Absolutely not. I think you're severely underestimating the huge transition from college to the pros.

But I'll just agree to disagree at this point b
 
I think this is a false generic way of look at leadership. I look for communication, attention to detail, holding players accountable and themselves, putting up shots after games, doing the little thing on the court like setting screens and calling out zone plays even when the ball is not getting to you (Zion has been known for playing with low energy and effort if he doesn't get his points) it's just small things like that. I don't care about all the screaming and ra ra stuff on the court. Tim Duncan was an amazing leader but one of the most chilled reserved players ever. It's all about doing WHATEVER is necessary to win games and making sure other teammates are doing so, and Zion did this at Duke but not in the NBA.

You could say duke coaching, culture, pressure to do that shit >>>>>>>>> pelicans.

But above anything else it was EASIER at that level to do all those things and get ya shit off.

He can't just play off athleticism here. It's more moving parts for him to figure out.
 
I hate the fact that a Pelicans controversial writer said this week's ago in a pessimmistic tone which turned people away and made folks defensive, but he was 100 percent right with the facts he said about Zion and the assessments we all thought about him from Duke to the NBA. Zion williamson so far is not the same player we expected, and to be honest if I knew so far that this would be who we were getting I would have EASILY drafted Ja Morant over Zion. I feel like a few people only have the stones to say that and I'm honestly one of them.

It's more than Zion tightening his handles, or learning defense, getting a jump shot, etc it's just his on court character so far that turned me off from him as well as interviews. He just so far doesn't scream leader, person who leave it all on the court, passionate gamer, etc like he showed at Duke. And if anyone feels that is the same person they are lying to themselves.

I disagree with the sports writer assessment that he lost his love for basketball, I believe it's more that Zion needs a sports psychologist to help with trusting his body and the mental block of preservation with his health. It's also possible with the surgery he lost his explosion or Pelicans medical staff at the time told him to preserve his movement with the whole "learn how to move kinetics" thing so it can honestly be the Pelicans organization telling Z to not move as freely to preserve his overall longevity.

The question is if this is true, is this just a early thing for his career or is this a forever thing. Also what kind of habits will that create with a young kid? With all this in mind, it just screams that Duke Zion is likely dead due to the injury and how his body is constructed, and this new heavier slower version of Zion is TBH not the type of player I feel comfortable in building a franchise around.

If I knew this will be Zion future projection a more polished athletic version of Zach Randolph, I will trade Zion while he is hot.

If I'm investing in a future, I want my franchise to be a better leader, have way less movement limitations, and can play defense. But thats just me.

I joke on the pelicans and zion any chance I get, but its waaaaaaay to early for this.

Yall wildin.

This what happens when a small market team has to deal with expectations.
 
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