The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: Joe Biden is the 46th President of the United States
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Peace_79
Black Excellence
He did run a poor campaign that wasn’t good enough. He lost and he needs to own that.
But it wasn’t because he wasn’t nice enough or because he accepted the endorsement of one radio guy.
But it was because he was “too nice” and failed to make his case forcefully.
Old black ppl were never going to vote for Sanders - even if he spent ever Sunday at all the churches in the south and pandered his ass off relentlessly.
They didn’t like him
Period. And nothing was going to change that unless he convinced them of the truth - Biden is a weak candidate and he doesn’t represent their best interests.
The Joe Rogan thing is a convenient excuse after the fact. Most Boomers don’t even know who the hell he is
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Focal Point
Negusa Negast
And most boomers grew up on the idea that socialism is bad and once that was put out there decades ago that was always going to be their mindset.
Peace_79
Black Excellence
Objectively?
Hilary won. But not my much.
To Trump supporters that means Trump won by a landslide. He landed some serious blows on her credibility and her hypocrisy and was able to run to the left of her on core issues.
He can do the same with Joe. Difference is Hilary was at least a competent competitor and had command of her faculties.
Also - Joes record is worse. And then there’s the little fact that he is credibly accused of rape.
And he has been involved in massive corruption.
“But so has Trump”
Yeah - but see - Trump isn’t running as a Puritan of sound moral character. Joe Biden is...
Trump will torch him for the hypocrisy that his supporters loathe of the establishment.
And It isn’t just debates. They are the exclamation points.
It’s the interviews and the press conferences and the shaping of the narrative and the responses to criticism and forcefully making your case, and the smearing of your opponent
All of which Trump and his campaign are far more capable of doing against a candidate who can’t speak without a teleprompter and may have onset Dementia.
If Joe looks weak in a debate it just confirms everything Trump will have said about him.
It sets the narrative in stone.
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Peace_79
Black Excellence
Democrats who are boomers hate Trump more than they hate socialism.
We don’t have to worry about them in the General.
We have to worry about everyone else. Unfortunately, you will see what I mean come November.
Mister
Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity is incurable.
So, in short, you believe Trump lost the debates with Clinton. Mind answering the second question that I asked?
Peace_79
Black Excellence
Probably not.
You are making a straw man argument tho. I am not saying the debates will be the deciding factor.
However I am also not pretending that they won’t be a major factor.
Furthermore, Joe Biden’s weakness’s don’t only apply to debates. That just happens to be where they will be most obvious
Mister
Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity is incurable.
I'm not making a strawman argument. I'm trying to understand the focus on the debates from those of you that are mad at Biden being the nominee.
So you truly believe the debates will be a "major factor" in this election? With everything this country is going through now, you still have the debates having a "major" impact?
bootcheese3000
Residential Hero of the Black Weirdos
Peace_79
Black Excellence
I do.
We have a Reality TV President. Debates are prime time TV
Americans are stupid. They don’t understand “everything the country is going through”
They understand what the corporate media tells them to understand. And much of that is filtered and shaped through the debates that occur on Cable News.
If Trump were embarrassed and called out in the debates AND even Fox News and Conservative stations had to positively cover his opponent and acknowledge Trump’s failure and embarrassment
Yes that makes a difference.
That won’t happen. The opposite will
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Peace_79
Black Excellence
AND Again if you are truly trying to understand anything about those of us who are “mad about Biden being the nominee.”
“The debates” are just the tip of the iceberg.
Playmaker88
G Money is Cash
third debate pushup contest..
Mister
Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity is incurable.
I was going to type a full response but I can see that the bottomline is that you're going to be pessimistic regarding Biden's chances to win because he's not your preferred candidate. It is what it is.
Mister
Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity is incurable.
Well try harping on those other things that you obviously believe are of more significance, since the debates are just the tip of the iceberg. The debate argument seems like an easy complaint to go with the "Joe is slow" narrative.
Peace_79
Black Excellence
I welcome your response.
If you think my pessimism about Biden is based on “him not being my preferred candidate” - you haven’t been paying attention ...
I don’t care about the candidates by the way
Bernie Sanders is just an old Jewish white guy.
I care about their ability to win; and subsequently their ability to govern; and most importantly the integrity and efficacy of their agenda they wish to enact.
Biden only checks box #2 for me. And I am not even confident in that - given how much he has deteriorated mentally.
Peace_79
Black Excellence
Mister
Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity is incurable.
The bold only reinforces my point that you're choosing to be pessimistic at this point. Biden is ahead of Trump in every poll out there. And because of Trump's handling of this Covid crisis, he's actually losing ground daily. So the ability to win argument should be a box checked as well.
But I'm not here to change anyone's mind that's already made up. Like I said, it is what it is.
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