I have to agree with this. The americans
Puritanical attributes have contributed to the downslope of sexual maturity. We all shall contain sexual maturity attributes like our pen pal @konceptjones .
So I quit watching porn and masturbating.
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Puritanical attributes have contributed to the downslope of sexual maturity. We all shall contain sexual maturity attributes like our pen pal @konceptjones .
Hey dude, All im saying is ill see a chick and think to myself "i would fuck the shit out of her". Thats all. Im not trying to hide a boner or anything. I think my thoughts are pretty common for other males as well.
If one cannot see a naked woman without feeling the urge to rub one out, then that is a sexual maturity issue. You have equated nakedness to masturbation in an unhealthy way and something like that had to have happened long ago and you haven't moved past that point. The key to breaking this isn't abstaining from porn or masturbation, it's seeking help to understand why you have connected the two in that manner. Only then can you break this habit. Abstinence only creates the conditions for a god-awful relapse into this behavior through deprivation. If you starve the body of food you will gorge yourself. If you have been thirsty for too long you will likely drown yourself and overconsume water or whatever liquid you come across. Likewise if you starve your body of it's natural need for sexual release you'll likely get to a point where you end up binging on porn and KY and feel like shit afterwards OR it'll manifest itself in your dreams (ergo, the "wet dreams thread").
You can't continue like this. The shit ain't healthy and only serves to further cement your already unhealthy towards nakedness and sexuality.
Okay great. To wherever this topic of uncontrollable fapping came from, I hope to bring home that I CAN control myself and I know what a grown woman looks like. We are dealing with a powerful energy within each other that we all differentiate as to how we control that energy. That reproductive energy we generate is our drive for everyday life, it's more than just for reproduction.
The system that we live in thrives on keeping us unmotivated and undriven so that we do their daily deeds. Maturity is experience and is about living life to way you know how learning from your environment. So the lack of experience sexually should not just be one particular thing. There could many reasons for the lack of experience (career, religion, marital status, beliefs etc.)
Now I get where you're coming from. That's true. But remember, it is a normalized social behavior. So yea going to a sex therapist would be an option. And like any addictions, getting help is valuable. But if you are NOT aware of your issues and know that there is a movement/group of people helping everyone cope and rebuild themselves in all phases, your issue could go undiagnosed for as long as possible. The NoFap community uses other people's experience to inspire others on tips and techniques to reversing the mental state. You are going to go through wet dreams, relapsing, spiritual and mental imbalances, but through that it is an experience of bettering yourself and people around you.
The problem is using abstinence as a replacement for therapy. There's a reason there are numerous posts here and back on the IC about y'all dudes relapsing and that's because you'll never get to the root of the problem with "No Fap". You can't treat something like this with a band-aid... And in this case "No Fap" is like a dollar store bandage that keeps coming off. You have to get help from a qualified, licensed therapist to get to the bottom of your issues surrounding sex. No Fap is a crutch; they mean well, and that's cool, but their approach to solving the problem is terribly misguided. It's kinda like AA, they replace one addiction with another but never really address and solve the underlying issues that caused the addiction in the first place.
NoFap is not saying to NOT have sex tho. You are replacing a stimulated activity with actual activity, so you are rewiring the brain. It is encouraged in Nofap. Abstinence is more of an individual choice, I mean to get alittle deeper there could be other reasons that deal with childhood, abuse, etc.
And honestly who is to say someone is not planning to talk to a therapist (They ain't cheap, nigga.) . It's not a crutch if your perception of the movement is NOT having sex at all. Those are personal choices that not everybody wants to take it that far, not everybody wants to go Monk Mode (Not having sex at all to maintain jing levels to highest degree).
When I talk of "abstaining", I mean from masturbation, not from sex all together using the broad definition of the word "restrain oneself from doing or enjoying something". I kept my response within that context, that you're looking to abstain from fapping.
Therapy costs money, this much is true, however if could be covered by your health insurance; you just gotta check.
So you're basically saying abstaining from masturbation is only going to make the issue worse than better?
Yes. It's not a replacement for therapy. Like I said, AA only seeks to replace one addiction (alcohol addiction) with another instead of getting to the root of the issue. Every one of you in this thread that's been doing "no fap" has already relapsed multiple times; a sign that this really isn't helping you and only gives you the illusion of being in control.
Besides that, it's healthy. The medical community encourages it in as it appears to help reduce the risk of prostate cancer in the event you're not able to get some ass on a regular basis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed...jaculation-may-decrease-prostate-cancer-risk/
And the peer-reviewed study that the NIH article is based on:
https://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/fulltext
I've seen the results of the things I've done with NoFap, that's the only results that matter to me and everyone is different. And it is besides withholding from releasing jing from ejaculation, it is the circulation of that jing energy that I'm most interested in which comes in meditative exercises like kundalini yoga, Qigong, etc.
That said, I have no interest in eurocentric research that can't even solve their own cancer research but want people to donate for lung, breast, and brain cancer for research.
Just because I've been relapsing multiple times, doesn't mean I'm failing. Jing energy is very powerful and once you learn how to hold for longer periods, it helps build your creative and intellectual drive as well as recirculate the vital nutrients in your body. There is a balance however, meaning you can't be addicted to ejaculation or sex but you can balance it out to get your fix of all so that it satisfies your dopamine. So in terms of "healthy", too much of anything is not healthy, too little of anything is not healthy.
Sex therapy would only be called upon for personal issues that deal with relationships with your significant other or partner and the interactions that follow. And I understand that the existence of porn has helped bridge the gap between actual intercourse, but it is what it is: a simulated activity that you are tricking the brain into thinking that you are having an actual interaction.
That said, it's not the actual ejaculation/masturbation that is the problem, it's what you doing to get to that dopamine rush. Because the porn today is so disruptive and dehumanizing, getting that dopamine rush of watching it is causing us to look at people especially our women differently. Not trying to sway you off from watching it, but peep the big picture with it.
It's an entire science that deals with your body's interaction with the opposite sex, that's why we even have to be careful of the women that we have sex with as well, because we are transferring their energies to ours and vice versa. And that could affect us negatively. So that's why when you are saying sexual maturity, I was trying to get where you are coming from. Because in my opinion, NO MAN determines another man's sexual maturity. I'm not for homosexuality at all for myself but I'm not going to judge another person's orientation or determine their orientation based on what they have or haven't done in their lives.
We learn from each other and could influence each other, but I'm not going to tell this mofo "Ayo if you don't do this shit, you gay". Fuck that, we supposed to be about our purpose, not fall into peer pressure that isn't healthy or beneficial. I'm for natural sexuality and stand by it but if you do not agree or understand it, it's not my place to change your mind.
That's essentially what these pornos are creating, false fetishes that try to hook us.
I have been fucking up lately and I am now on day 2 again, I have had about 5 wanks within one week and now I'm feeling weak, at first I thought it was cool and didn't really feel any negatives but now I can feel it, my motivation is at an all time low so I will be getting back on track with this shit.
I'm telling you man, start looking into some of those adaptogen herbs. Because for each time I relapse, those herbs help with recovery + other benefits.