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Rank Series: Ghostface vs Andre 3000

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We're changing things up for the next part of the series.


Now you have to explain your choices using a 5 point system. For each criteria explain why you chose to give the rapper the point. If you're trolling or just saying anything your vote won't count.



The Criteria

Every criteria is 1 point


- Catalog


- Influence ( influence on their peers and the generation who followed)


- Impact (sales, hits , movements)


- Content ( self explanatory)


- Bars/Flow ( self explanatory)


 
Influence and impact is the same shit. Sales and hits shouldn't matter.
 
Ghost 3 classics in a row plus
Influence his squad had everyone changing their names

Dude stories are vivid as hell no matter the topic
Bars game I'd say early ghost was a 4 4.5 over all he gets a 4 outta 5 from me.

Tony for mayor !! !
 
lol yea this system aint gonna work, niggas don't know how to be impartial.
 
Influence and impact is the same shit. Sales and hits shouldn't matter.

MF doom, take a seat for now fam.

Ghost 3 classics in a row plus
Influence his squad had everyone changing their names

Dude stories are vivid as hell no matter the topic
Bars game I'd say early ghost was a 4 4.5 over all he gets a 4 outta 5 from me.

Tony for mayor !! !


Bulletproof wallets is a classic? lol cmon man.

Outkast actually does have 3 classics in a row.

"he had everybody changing their name" :dfbruh:




Is anybody down to have a real debate?
 
Andre 3000

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And his impact on @Goldie

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Ghostface Killah

CATALOG:
Two certified solo classics with Ironman and Supreme Clientele.
Key part of three other classics, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, and Wu-Tang Forever.

INFLUENCE:
Before 1993, NYC Hip Hop had a specific sound, boom bap was the main thing you heard. Once Ghostface and his legendary group dropped 36 Chambers, NYC sound changed forever and ushered in the grimey style of the 90s.
The influence of Wu-Tang Clan on hip hop is immeasurable.

IMPACT:
Including the Clan and individual projects, over 40 million records have been sold worldwide.
The movement of the grimey sound of NYC first introduced by Wu helped influence some of the greatest albums in Hip Hop history.

CONTENT:
Grimey, mafioso street shit.

BARS/FLOW:
One of the greatest spittas of all time.

“Grey Poupon is Revlon rap, smack pawns, swing like batons
Most my niggas smoke like Hillshire Farms”


"Call an ambulance, Jamie been shot, word to Kimmy
Don't go son, nigga you my motherfucking heart
Stay still son, don't move, just think about Keeba
She'll be three in January, your young God needs ya
The ambulance is taking too long
Everybody get the fuck back, excuse me bitch, gimme your jack
One, seven one eight, nine one one, low battery, damn
Blood comin out his mouth, he bleedin badly
Nahhh Jamie, don't start that shit
Keep your head up, if you escape hell we gettin fucked up
When we was eight, we went to Bat Day to see the Yanks
In Sixty-Nine, his father and mines, they robbed banks
He pointed to the charm on his neck
With his last bit of energy left, told me rock it with respect
I opened it, seen the God holdin his kids
Photogenic, tears just burst out my wig
Plus he dropped one, oh shit, here come his Old Earth
With no shoes on, screamin holdin her breasts with a gown on
She fell and then lightly touched his jaw, kissed him
Rubbed his hair, turned around the ambulance was there
Plus the blue coats, Officer Lough, took it as a joke
Weeks ago he strip-searched the God and gave him back his coke
Bitches yellin, Beenie Man swung on Helen
In the back of a cop car, Dirty Tasha are tellin
But suddenly a chill came through it was weird
Felt like my man, was cast out my heaven now we share
Laid on the stretcher, blood on his Wally's like ketchup
Deep like the full assassination with a sketch of it
It can't be, from Yoo-hoo to Lee's
Second grade humped the teachers, about to leave
Finally this closed chapter, comes to an end
He was announced, pronounced dead, y'all, at twelve ten"




Ghostface Killah will always have bigger claim to GOAT than 3 Stacks.
 
Ghostface Killah

CATALOG:
Two certified solo classics with Ironman and Supreme Clientele.
Key part of three other classics, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, and Wu-Tang Forever.

INFLUENCE:
Before 1993, NYC Hip Hop had a specific sound, boom bap was the main thing you heard. Once Ghostface and his legendary group dropped 36 Chambers, NYC sound changed forever and ushered in the grimey style of the 90s.
The influence of Wu-Tang Clan on hip hop is immeasurable.

IMPACT:
Including the Clan and individual projects, over 40 million records have been sold worldwide.
The movement of the grimey sound of NYC first introduced by Wu helped influence some of the greatest albums in Hip Hop history.

CONTENT:
Grimey, mafioso street shit.

BARS/FLOW:
One of the greatest spittas of all time.

“Grey Poupon is Revlon rap, smack pawns, swing like batons
Most my niggas smoke like Hillshire Farms”


"Call an ambulance, Jamie been shot, word to Kimmy
Don't go son, nigga you my motherfucking heart
Stay still son, don't move, just think about Keeba
She'll be three in January, your young God needs ya
The ambulance is taking too long
Everybody get the fuck back, excuse me bitch, gimme your jack
One, seven one eight, nine one one, low battery, damn
Blood comin out his mouth, he bleedin badly
Nahhh Jamie, don't start that shit
Keep your head up, if you escape hell we gettin fucked up
When we was eight, we went to Bat Day to see the Yanks
In Sixty-Nine, his father and mines, they robbed banks
He pointed to the charm on his neck
With his last bit of energy left, told me rock it with respect
I opened it, seen the God holdin his kids
Photogenic, tears just burst out my wig
Plus he dropped one, oh shit, here come his Old Earth
With no shoes on, screamin holdin her breasts with a gown on
She fell and then lightly touched his jaw, kissed him
Rubbed his hair, turned around the ambulance was there
Plus the blue coats, Officer Lough, took it as a joke
Weeks ago he strip-searched the God and gave him back his coke
Bitches yellin, Beenie Man swung on Helen
In the back of a cop car, Dirty Tasha are tellin
But suddenly a chill came through it was weird
Felt like my man, was cast out my heaven now we share
Laid on the stretcher, blood on his Wally's like ketchup
Deep like the full assassination with a sketch of it
It can't be, from Yoo-hoo to Lee's
Second grade humped the teachers, about to leave
Finally this closed chapter, comes to an end
He was announced, pronounced dead, y'all, at twelve ten"




Ghostface Killah will always have bigger claim to GOAT than 3 Stacks.

Now I dont have to type my reasoning. Ghost top 3 personally and universally top 5.
 
One get mentioned by all the GOATS for being of the GOATs

The other dont.



Bars, Flow, Story telling all goes to 3K


3K never been outshined on a track


Wu-Tang was a movement but when it comes to Music Outkast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




Yall love GFK and he has a solid list but he is vastly overratted
 
One get mentioned by all the GOATS for being of the GOATs

The other

Bars, Flow, Story telling all goes to 3K


3K never been outshined on a track


Wu-Tang was a movement but when it comes to Music Outkast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




Yall love GFK and he has a solid list but he is vastly overratted

3k dont have enough solo success to be considered.better. ghost has 2 certified classic solo joints birthed a bunch of niggas and still killing shit to this day. 3k been sel tive with who he jumps on a track with. He's never been outshined on a track, but he hasn't hopped on with some of the real lyrical niggas enough for me to say he better.
 
Yea yall just saying anything now lol 3k has been on a song with damn near every elite rapper
 
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