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Was the MCU a thing in 2008 that was widely known? Are you a simpleton?
So now it's the MCU? Because what you said was...
Marvel wasn't a known entity to the general public when Incredible Hulk dropped so it makes sense that the Incredible Hulk did Flash numbers
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See? I even underlined it for you. Maybe instead of trying to insult someone, actually type what you mean and re-read what you wrote.
 
Blade, The Hulk, F4, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, the other Ghost Rider, All those Spiderman Flicks...

None of those were really made by Marvel though. I mean I'm sure they had some say, but for better or worse, those movies were made by other studios who had full creative control.

On average, Marvel has done a better job with the properties than the other studios did. There are, of course, exceptions like the first Blade movie and some of the Spiderman movies.
 
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