Disney+ Marvel's Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[Dwayne]

Y’all love mid shit if it involves black folks

 

[Duwop]

I still can’t get over the “how can Shuri (the black Panther by the way) square up against Namor? She’s a woman”
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Niggas was committed to dying on that hill for absolutely no good reason

Yeah that was dumb. The very first thing about this entire movie I said was if anybody knows how to build a proper warrior princess it's Disney. They handled shuri perfectly. She was a very believable imo. I knew she wouldn't kill Namor, but she did a very good job of displaying the want to do so while having a great opportunity

 

[Inori]

Y’all love mid shit if it involves black folks

lol who said they loved it tho?

 

[Dwayne]

Yeah that was dumb. The very first thing about this entire movie I said was if anybody knows how to build a proper warrior princess it's Disney. They handled shuri perfectly. She was a very believable imo. I knew she wouldn't kill Namor, but she did a very good job of displaying the want to do so while having a great opportunity

Disney didn’t build her.


Don’t give credit where credit isn’t due

 

[Inori]

Also discussion about what would happen in a hypothetical Namor film since the film ends with some dissension going on around Namor's idea to call off the battle. Attuma never appeared again and he's a Namor antagonist in the comics so it would be civil war in Talokan

Then the realization came that Namor(like Hulk) cant have his own movies as it stands now. Womp womp

 

[Dwayne]

lol who said they loved it tho?

so we gon play this game.


Bet.

 

[Duwop]

Du ima be real brief cause I feel like you missed something.

Namor didn’t randomly have a gripe with Wakanda. He mentions something along the lines of the only reason governments are looking for Vibranium is cause TChalla opened up Wakanda to the world so he put the responsibility on Shuri and them.

He could have done that from the shadows though.

Him revealing himself to Wakanda tactically wasn't a good move.

The better movie is to continue to disrupt the world attempt to find Vibranium and let the world blame Wakanda for their actions.

 

[Iceberg_Taylor]

Thread is about to take a weird turn. I’ve discussed enough. Mamba out

 

[Duwop]

There was some discussion about what's next. Some of us deduced that America (Contessa works in the CIA) has plans to invade Wakanda in the next film

That's my point. This was the end game regardless based on the way things were going.

Namor attack on the ship had everyone thinking Wakanda did it, and the pieces were already in motion for that invasion.

They could have fell back. And let that happen..or speed it up by doing more shit Wakanda would have gotten blamed for.


Granted that movie would have sucked.... But the plan makes way more sense

 

[Inori]

so we gon play this game.


Bet.

Alot of folks said it was straight but didnt top the first one.

I dont recall anyone going bezerk over this film saying how dope it was

 

[Dwayne]

He could have done that from the shadows though.

Him revealing himself to Wakanda tactically wasn't a good move.

The better movie is to continue to disrupt the world attempt to find Vibranium and let the world blame Wakanda for their actions.

He played it perfect.


Also. She took it upon herself to to find iron heart and protect her even though she was a huge threat to namor entire civilization.

Once they decided to protect her it was basically a declaration of war by Wakanda

 

[Duwop]

Yeah that shit was weak.

Your kind told the world about vibranium so now its your responsibility to stop them from looking round my place for vibranium.

Then when he had Shuri and ol girl.. he coulda just killed her outright but instead took Shuri on a tour and got salty when Wakanda came back to get their princess.

Dude had multiple opportunities to prevent conflict but chose not to at every turn until he got toasted

Riiiiiight.....he had NO REASON to keep them alive
. He didn't even attempt to negotiate their return. He just thought Wakanda would be cool with defending them as long as they had shuri hostage?

Like was that his plan? I think not. I think he knew they would come after hey and wanted to use that as the excuse to war.

But he almost died. His chances to defeat Wakanda and stay alive went up considerably had he just killed shuri and RiRi

Wakanda would have had no shot defending their invasion.

 

[Duwop]

Disney didn’t build her.


Don’t give credit where credit isn’t due

I watched this on Disney plus

 

[Duwop]

He played it perfect.


Also. She took it upon herself to to find iron heart and protect her even though she was a huge threat to namor entire civilization.

Once they decided to protect her it was basically a declaration of war by Wakanda

No he didn't.

He revealed their city

He gave shuri the means to make a new heart shaped herb

He got non military members of his family killed

He was almost burned alive. Which would have been disastrous for both Wakanda and his city.

He played that whole thing horribly

 

[Duwop]

Once they decided to protect her it was basically a declaration of war by Wakanda

No it wasn't.

It was declared when nakia took shuri back after Namor laughed at negotiating her return.

How kidnapped a princess and offered no negotiations. He was Wakanda supposed to respond? That was an impossible situation.

 

[Duwop]

Then he KILLED THE QUEEN. And said y'all either get down or lay down. He could have ended it then.. But he kept it going just to place them in another impossible situation. His death. His death would have been bad for both sides. Yet that was his play....

It was a bad play. Cuz anything other than shuri showing mercy is bad for everybody

 

[Dwayne]

No it wasn't.

It was declared when nakia took shuri back after Namor laughed at negotiating her return.

How kidnapped a princess and offered no negotiations. He was Wakanda supposed to respond? That was an impossible situation.

Shuri protected the person they was after.


She was the only threat to build that machine again.


Once you take that stand to stand by her you are the enemy.

 

[Duwop]

Shuri protected the person they was after.


She was the only threat to build that machine again.


Once you take that stand to stand by her you are the enemy.

Yet he took her on a tour of the city. Gave her a herb that could restore their protector.


If she's an enemy why not kill both her and RiRi?

ESPECIALLY if you're not negotiating their release?

Namor played that bad.

 

[Inori]

Shuri protected the person they was after.


She was the only threat to build that machine again.


Once you take that stand to stand by her you are the enemy.

I think the point is.. instead of being a dick and tryna flex on Wakanda saying YALL GO GET HER.

He coulda just went and killed shorty and been done with it and nobody woulda known they existed

 

[Duwop]

I think the point is.. instead of being a dick and tryna flex on Wakanda saying YALL GO GET HER.

He coulda just went and killed shorty and been done with it and nobody woulda known they existed

Cia would have been steady blaming Wakanda ready to declare war, and they still would have no black panther with no clue who was responsible.

They would have been even more vulnerable. And Namor wouldn't have lost one life on his side


Or revealed his location. Or revealed his weakness in battle