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I had high hopes for Dreamville Fest but now I'm not so sure. The first half of 7MD us for the casual fan and sonically its gonna ring off on stage and in the club. 2nd half was for the lyrical fans and he should have went harder pause. He might regret I'm hesitant line cause it can be flipped so many ways

Are we saying FPS and Like That is round one and this starts round two?
 
Ran it 3 times this morning…. Basically a J Cole project

Everything is good, but nothing is great
 
Fever sounds like a throwaway Drake track. Had to check to see if it was a 40 production
 
TPAB has to be the least replayed or heard "classic" album in the history of rap.

I'm telling y'all, there was a movement of "Black Intellectuals" on social media during the early 2010's and once they were platformed they talked and acted as if they were the authority on the Black experience in the United States. When you combine that with the spotlight that was put on police brutality and overtly racist acts like George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin during that time, the music of that era becomes the soundtrack to the state of the society.

So if a rapper like Kendrick who had a wildly successful mainstream debut with GKMC drops and album like TPAB, you can expect people to gas it and perhaps even over inflate how good the album actually is.

This isn't new in rap. There has always been albums that were propped up because of the timing of when they dropped and the state of music or society. A good example is 50 Cent with GRODT. It's wasn't like rap wasn't still hardcore and street and gangsta when GRODT dropped. It's just that the state of rap music at the time was leaning more towards party music, club bangers, and less of an in your face gangsta shit like G-Funk era rap. So when GRODT dropped and 50 was able to blend the hardcore raps, club bangers, party songs, and lyrical word play, it made for one of the most impactful periods in music history. Not just rap.

Also just like when TPAB dropped, the music fit the real life experience. Kendrick was rapping about the state of things in Black culture in a way where everybody could not ignore because we were living through those times.

50 was able to translate the entire persona of a "Rapper" and combine that with his real life experiences which created one of the most authentic rap moments in history.

So then why does it sound like I'm going in on TPAB? It's because while the album wasn't trash (which I would not call an album like TPAB trash considering the content and the period in which it dropped), the reception from a lot of those "Voices of the Black Community" types was that "we" needed that album because of what was going on. It got so ridiculous that niggas were attacking rappers like Drake and demanding that he switch up his content and rap about political commentary and Black struggles or else he would be deemed trash, not at the top of his craft, washed, or however you want to describe it.

Niggas used a moment in time and a piece of music to try and define an era and they weaponized that album as some sort of barometer on Black music. All of a sudden, Kendrick is a genius and a GOAT because he dropped a period piece of music during a very tumultuous time. Niggas didn't learn their lesson when they tried to "crown" niggas like Kanye with that shit. Remember how when College Dropout dropped it was a moment in rap? Then it got to the point where niggas were gassing Kanye so much that they never stopped and even considered who he really was. The wild ass nigga walking around with his ashy butt crack out and wearing dominatrix stocking mask is the same guy that made Through The Wire. The same guy that is a Nazi sympathizer produced "Be" which is one of the best and most complete rap albums of All Time.

But niggas were too busy trying to be the authority on Black music to see that. Instead we were hounded and reminded over and over that Kanye West is a genius and whatnot.

So just like with Kanye, TPAB was less about how good the actual album was and more about a very self centered and obnoxious sector of "Black" people using an album to create a moment in rap history. That album winning a Pulitzer is actually a joke when you consider all of the albums in rap history too but that is what happens when you have niggas trying to be the authority on a Black experience that eventually gets co-opted or flat out taken over by white people. If those "Black Intellectuals don't Stan (ironic) as hard for TPAB as they did then it's never on white people's radar and it damn sure isn't winning a Pulitzer Prize.
 
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Overall, this is great for hip-hop if you like rapping especially if you are like me and you have debates with younger people or non- hip hop ppl about how lyrics are out the door and will never come back .I’m trying to tell them that no matter what happens in rap it will always come back to who is better at the skill of rapping eventually
 
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Somehow, J. Cole doesn’t have, but like one more solo album than Kendrick so it’s kind of wild for him to act like he’s dropping albums every year but it was a slick diss

Kendrick as of now only has one less album than J. Cole

There was like a 3 yr gap in between Cole’s last 2 and almost 3 yrs this time again
 
Loch121 said:
Somehow, J. Cole doesn’t have, but like one more solo album than Kendrick so it’s kind of wild for him to act like he’s dropping albums every year but it was a slick diss

Kendrick as of now only has one less album than J. Cole

There was like a 3 yr gap in between Cole’s last 2 and almost 3 yrs this time again
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Kinda like how Nas drop 4 albums and 1 compilation between 94 and 2000 but niggas let Jay get that off.
 
Los216 said:
TPAB has to be the least replayed or heard "classic" album in the history of rap.

I'm telling y'all, there was a movement of "Black Intellectuals" on social media during the early 2010's and once they were platformed they talked and acted as if they were the authority on the Black experience in the United States. When you combine that with the spotlight that was put on police brutality and overtly racist acts like George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin during that time, the music of that era becomes the soundtrack to the state of the society.

So if a rapper like Kendrick who had a wildly successful mainstream debut with GKMC drops and album like TPAB, you can expect people to gas it and perhaps even over inflate how good the album actually is.

This isn't new in rap. There has always been albums that were propped up because of the timing of when they dropped and the state of music or society. A good example is 50 Cent with GRODT. It's wasn't like rap wasn't still hardcore and street and gangsta when GRODT dropped. It's just that the state of rap music at the time was leaning more towards party music, club bangers, and less of an in your face gangsta shit like G-Funk era rap. So when GRODT dropped and 50 was able to blend the hardcore raps, club bangers, party songs, and lyrical word play, it made for one of the most impactful periods in music history. Not just rap.

Also just like when TPAB dropped, the music fit the real life experience. Kendrick was rapping about the state of things in Black culture in a way where everybody could not ignore because we were living through those times.

50 was able to translate the entire persona of a "Rapper" and combine that with his real life experiences which created one of the most authentic rap moments in history.

So then why does it sound like I'm going in on TPAB? It's because while the album wasn't trash (which I would not call an album like TPAB trash considering the content and the period in which it dropped), the reception from a lot of those "Voices of the Black Community" types was that "we" needed that album because of what was going on. It got so ridiculous that niggas were attacking rappers like Drake and demanding that he switch up his content and rap about political commentary and Black struggles or else he would be deemed trash, not at the top of his craft, washed, or however you want to describe it.

Niggas used a moment in time and a piece of music to try and define an era and they weaponized that album as some sort of barometer on Black music. All of a sudden, Kendrick is a genius and a GOAT because he dropped a period piece of music during a very tumultuous time. Niggas didn't learn their lesson when they tried to "crown" niggas like Kanye with that shit. Remember how when College Dropout dropped it was a moment in rap? Then it got to the point where niggas were gassing Kanye so much that they never stopped and even considered who he really was. The wild ass nigga walking around with his ashy butt crack out and wearing dominatrix stocking mask is the same guy that made Through The Wire. The same guy that is a Nazi sympathizer produced "Be" which is one of the best and most complete rap albums of All Time.

But niggas were too busy trying to be the authority on Black music to see that. Instead we were hounded and reminded over and over that Kanye West is a genius and whatnot.

So just like with Kanye, TPAB was less about how good the actual album was and more about a very self centered and obnoxious sector of "Black" people using an album to create a moment in rap history. That album winning a Pulitzer is actually a joke when you consider all of the albums in rap history too but that is what happens when you have niggas trying to be the authority on a Black experience that eventually gets co-opted or flat out taken over by white people. If those "Black Intellectuals don't Stan (ironic) as hard for TPAB as they did then it's never on white people's radar and it damn sure isn't winning a Pulitzer Prize.
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You in here writing essays about nonsense. TPAB > any Cole album, full stop. If you don't vibe with that album which was genius lyrics woven together with a deep message I don't know what to tell you.

Nevermind your GRODT take, that album still plays 2 decades later. It wasn't about a "moment", it was 50 putting his life purpose into his music and collabing with people like Em and Dre. You like 0-2, and your rambling about "black intellectuals" is hilarious when you in here with the pseudo-intellectual take
 
OnlyBuilt4CubanLinx said:
Just because FHD is Cole best album don’t mean it’s a classic either. It’s just a good album.
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People don't want to admit this but the thing that gets albums labeled as classics the most has more to do with the time period in which it drops and less to do with the quality of the music.

Reasonable Doubt was NOT a classic when it dropped. It's still easily a top 3 Jay-Z album which when put into perspective should make it a classic right?

Reasonable Doubt did not become a classic until it was clear that Jay-Z was one of the greatest rappers of all time. Now you can go back and look at his discography and judge the quality of the music without the skewed opinions of the time period in which it dropped. Jay-Z had a 20 year run at the top of the rap game. RD is arguably one of if not his best pieces of work. That would make it a classic right? It was his debut. Biggie was on there. He introduced himself to the rap game with his first piece of work. It stands the test of time. It's okay that it wasn't considered a classic until years later. That's usually how it goes.

Why can't FHD be considered a classic? If you think that it's J. Cole's best album and J. Cole has positioned himself to be one of if not the best overall rapper out then judge his music using classic standards. Which would mean judging the quality of the album over time. Has J. Cole put out quality albums since FHD? FHD is also 10 years old. Was RD considered a classic in 2006? I want to say yes.

If you think FHD was J. Cole's best piece of work and it is 10 years old and he's released mutiple quality projects since then, why would FHD not be considered a classic?
 
Goldie said:
Team OVO has entered the chat

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Someone @ me when a haymaker is thrown....

Flex aint dropping bombs to none of this shit.
 
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