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Israel Prime Minister Says Country Is "At War"

The Lonious Monk said:
They are, but no moreso than Israel is. The only difference is how they are recognized by the world at large.
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Hedging is cowardly bullshit. It's okay to call Hamas terrorists, that doesn't mean you support the apartheid actions of the Israeli state.

Calling ISIS terrorists doesn't mean you support our government bombing goat herders.
 
How the fuck is leveling a fucking city supposed to fix anything? Where the fuck are they supposed to go? Egypt don't want them. This is going exactly according to plan for all the evil mfers involved. Fuck Netanyahu and that evil ass government.

2.3 million people in the Gaza Strip, y'all show me one fucking video where there are 2.3 million people all collectively saying they are down with beheading babies. They aren't trying to keep Israelis safe, this just perpetuates the cycle of violence which will keep Israelis unsafe. They just want to kill Palestinians.
 
Swabbie said:
Hedging is cowardly bullshit. It's okay to call Hamas terrorists, that doesn't mean you support the apartheid actions of the Israeli state.

Calling ISIS terrorists doesn't mean you support our government bombing goat herders.
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Comparing ISIS to Hamas is disingenuous. Hamas isn't out there randomly attacking Western targets because they've declared Jihad. They are fighting against a superior power with inferior resources. They aren't doing anything that Israel isn't doing. Hamas bombs targets with civilians, and so do Israel. They do the same exact things. People just label it different because Israel is an actual nation with a formal military, and Hamas is a smaller informal group that doesn't have the capability to declare a real war.

So call them terrorists if you want, I don't care, but if so, you have to admit the Israeli state is terroristic too.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Comparing ISIS to Hamas is disingenuous. Hamas isn't out there randomly attacking Western targets because they've declared Jihad. They are fighting against a superior power with inferior resources. They aren't doing anything that Israel isn't doing. Hamas bombs targets with civilians, and so do Israel. They do the same exact things. People just label it different because Israel is an actual nation with a formal military, and Hamas is a smaller informal group that doesn't have the capability to declare a real war.

So call them terrorists if you want, I don't care, but if so, you have to admit the Israeli state is terroristic too.
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Beheading children is ISIS behavior, disingenuous my fucking ass nigga.

I've stated plenty times over what the Israeli state is doing.

You just refuse to accept that Hamas as straight up evil. They are evil absent the Israeli government. They aren't fighting the good fight, they don't give a single fuck about the Palestinian people. They are terrorists.

I respect your posts a lot but you off the mark here. You think you are stating something profound but you aren't. No one is denying anything about the Israeli government. What is being denied is the myth that Hamas are freedom fighters. They are terrorists, as clear as day.

Them mfers in Myanmar are freedom fighters but I don't think I've ever seen anyone here cape for them mfers.
 
Swabbie said:
Beheading children is ISIS behavior, disingenuous my fucking ass nigga.

I've stated plenty times over what the Israeli state is doing.

You just refuse to accept that Hamas as straight up evil. They are evil absent the Israeli government. They aren't fighting the good fight, they don't give a single fuck about the Palestinian people. They are terrorists.

I respect your posts a lot but you off the mark here. You think you are stating something profound but you aren't. No one is denying anything about the Israeli government. What is being denied is the myth that Hamas are freedom fighters. They are terrorists, as clear as day.

Them mfers in Myanmar are freedom fighters but I don't think I've ever seen anyone here cape for them mfers.
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There's no caping here. I never said Hamas was good or righteous. I just said that the Israeli state is just as bad. Yes, beheading children is evil, but so is shelling an apartment building full of men, women, and children because one or two suspected terrorists might live there. At best, this is a case of a war between two shitty sides.

Would you have called Nelson Mandela evil before apartheid ended? Because at that time South Africa was calling him an evil terrorist and accusing him of many of the same things that Hamas is accused of.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
There's no caping here. I never said Hamas was good or righteous. I just said that the Israeli state is just as bad. Yes, beheading children is evil, but so is shelling an apartment building full of men, women, and children because one or two suspected terrorists might live there. At best, this is a case of a war between two shitty sides.

Would you have called Nelson Mandela evil before apartheid ended? Because at that time South Africa was calling him an evil terrorist and accusing him of many of the same things that Hamas is accused of.
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Everyone that openly fights their oppressor will be labeled "terrorists" at some point.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
There's no caping here. I never said Hamas was good or righteous. I just said that the Israeli state is just as bad. Yes, beheading children is evil, but so is shelling an apartment building full of men, women, and children because one or two suspected terrorists might live there. At best, this is a case of a war between two shitty sides.

Would you have called Nelson Mandela evil before apartheid ended? Because at that time South Africa was calling him an evil terrorist and accusing him of many of the same things that Hamas is accused of.
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When did Mandela murder a child or livestream himself executing someone's grandmother?

I think this all comes down to you thinking their actions were justifiable in a sense. Okay, good day.
 
Swabbie said:
When did Mandela murder a child or livestream himself executing someone's grandmother?

I think this all comes down to you thinking their actions were justifiable in a sense. Okay, good day.
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I'm not sure why you're playing this game.

So you think bombing hospitals and wedding parties is justifiable right?

I'm guessing not, but if I was using your logic then I would be saying that you do think those actions are justifiable because you seem to have a problem with me saying that the Israeli State has been just as bad as Hamas and they have bombed hospitals and wedding parties.

If you disagree with something I say, that's fine, but stop misrepresenting my points. Beheading kids is evil and similar acts are evil. No one has said otherwise.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I'm not sure why you're playing this game.

So you think bombing hospitals and wedding parties is justifiable right?

I'm guessing not, but if I was using your logic then I would be saying that you do think those actions are justifiable because you seem to have a problem with me saying that the Israeli State has been just as bad as Hamas and they have bombed hospitals and wedding parties.

If you disagree with something I say, that's fine, but stop misrepresenting my points. Beheading kids is evil and similar acts are evil. No one has said otherwise.
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The person misrepresenting shit is you, bro. Always been you. I honestly don't even know what the fuck your talking about beyond "Israel bad", which I've fucking said over and fucking over and fucking over again. But every time I say, Hamas are fucking terrorists, you bring it back to Israel. Only conclusion I can come to is that you think Hamas' actions are justifiable because of what Israel does. I mean that's a pretty accurate representation if I do say so myself seeing as though you are upvoting "Every freedom fighter has been called a terrorist" and comparing these mfers to fucking Nelson Mandela.

You are an apologist for terrorism, I honestly don't give a fuck about anything else you have to say. Don't reply.
 
konceptjones said:
Everyone that openly fights their oppressor will be labeled "terrorists" at some point.
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I'm not sure why this goofy ass nigga doesn't understand this.

I never said Hamas wasn't bad or that they weren't terrorists.

My only points were that groups aren't automatically bad just because they are labelled as terrorists and that Israel is just as bad as Hamas.

I haven't said one good thing about Hamas, but this nigga acting like I'm saying they're heroes. lol

As I said before, both sides of this conflict are shitty.
 
Swabbie said:
The person misrepresenting shit is you, bro. Always been you. I honestly don't even know what the fuck your talking about beyond "Israel bad", which I've fucking said over and fucking over and fucking over again. But every time I say, Hamas are fucking terrorists, you bring it back to Israel. Only conclusion I can come to is that you think Hamas' actions are justifiable because of what Israel does. I mean that's a pretty accurate representation if I do say so myself seeing as though you are upvoting "Every freedom fighter has been called a terrorist" and comparing these mfers to fucking Nelson Mandela.

You are an apologist for terrorism, I honestly don't give a fuck about anything else you have to say. Don't reply.
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Actually, it's not accurate in the least bit.

First, you gotta remember that entire country was once Palestine.

This is the abridged, 60 second version:

Since it's inception, Israel has been pushing Palestinians out of their lands, typically through brute force. Lots of Palestinians wound up dead from Israli raids on Gaza and The West Bank to secure land. Then they build settlements on that stolen land. They also put a choke on any supplies going to Palestine so the people are left with very little to survive on. They've been doing this for decades. So, some Palestinians stood up and fought for their fellow Palestinians and their lands. In doing so, they're labeled as "terrorists" buy their oppressor: Israel.

Israel controls the narrative. They show the world what they want to be seen, they tell the world of the barbarism the Palestinians inflict on their peaceful people all the while constantly provoking Palestinians through military ops on their land for which groups like Hamas wind up firing rockets back into Israel in retaliation. Then Israel points a finger at Hamas and the world frowns at Hamas.

It's a bunch of bullshit, to be honest.
 
The statements from the IDF are so incredibly incendiary. They sound like people out for revenge, not for making things safer for their people. An eye for an eye in the Torah is not about addressing grievances, it's about removing things that harm from society.

When you click ignore on people, it messes with the site formatting.
 
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