OPINION Is Marvel's Black Panther movie really a "special moment" for Black America??

The Lonious Monk said:
1. I know. lol That was my whole point. We have to move past unnecessary animosity like that.
2. You can have pride in who you are and still want a connection to your roots. Everyone else has that, why can't African Americans as well?
3. I guess their is desperation in that for some. That doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile endeavor.
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man i ain't movin past shit....i have no desire to pretend i'm just like a mtherfucker who don't wanna have shit to do with me in the first place...
most africans think black americans are lazy as fuck and they believe every stereotype that white folk have put out there bout us....

i'm fine with our history right here in america, Africa can keep their shit... that's the way they would have it anyway.....

like i said, i knew african folk who would actually hide their black american friends from their parents.....
talk about racist against our own people..

them Africans be racist as shit amongst black americans....
 
King Du said:
yes we are....of course we are....i'm firmly aware of that ...are you?

or are you ashamed to be black because that we still have gang culture and drug dealers in our society?

you mean to tell me that yo feel we have not advanced much because we still making movies about shit that's still going on in the hood?
are we supposed to pretend that shit don't exist anymore?

why?

who are we pretending for?

should shows like the chi not be on tv at all? i mean the general consensus was that LaLa was a dope character on black lightning that was killed off too early.......are you saying his character should've never been on there??

we all have ugly shit to talk about

are you ashamed of your people?

do you not have no drug dealers, or gang members, or any negative black folk in your family?


do you pretend they don't exist?

if your cousin in jail over a bag of weed, are you ashamed of him??

police still killing niggaz... yea some of them might have been in that life... but are we supposed to not portray their images, because it's not as pleasing to the eye as the wakanda empire...


ugly shit still goes on bruh...

real shit still goes on...

we can't be ashamed or try to hied real shit....cuz if we do, then we not being real...

which means we fake....

which leads back to my irritation with all this shit in the first place....

niggaz look fake as shit tryna be something they not.....
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now who's latching onto posts

my point is, there other OTHER representations of black/black culture
 
AP21 said:
now who's latching onto posts

my point is, there other OTHER representations of black/black culture
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in other words, i answered your questions, but you can't answer mines.....
:cont:
 
King Du said:
yes we are....of course we are....i'm firmly aware of that ...are you?

or are you ashamed to be black because that we still have gang culture and drug dealers in our society?

you mean to tell me that yo feel we have not advanced much because we still making movies about shit that's still going on in the hood?
are we supposed to pretend that shit don't exist anymore?

why?

who are we pretending for?

should shows like the chi not be on tv at all? i mean the general consensus was that LaLa was a dope character on black lightning that was killed off too early.......are you saying his character should've never been on there??

we all have ugly shit to talk about

are you ashamed of your people?

do you not have no drug dealers, or gang members, or any negative black folk in your family?


do you pretend they don't exist?

if your cousin in jail over a bag of weed, are you ashamed of him??

police still killing niggaz... yea some of them might have been in that life... but are we supposed to not portray their images, because it's not as pleasing to the eye as the wakanda empire...


ugly shit still goes on bruh...

real shit still goes on...

we can't be ashamed or try to hied real shit....cuz if we do, then we not being real...

which means we fake....

which leads back to my irritation with all this shit in the first place....

niggaz look fake as shit tryna be something they not.....
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But we are African, how come white ppl can have game of thrones and its cool but we wanna watch the black panther and we hate ourselves. Ive seen you say ppl wanna start wearing dashiki's n thats wrong. I guess us black ppl wearing all that European gucci and loui is cool tho to u? I just don't see ur problem with a amazing hi tech beautiful civilization filled with nothing but black ppl shown on the big screen such a problem for you.
 
King Du said:
in other words, i answered your questions, but you can't answer mines.....
:cont:
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i just answered yours

no one is saying those stories cant be told, but why are those the only ones allowed to be told

you rather some fictional movie based on real life circumstances that occur in black community, yet you have an issue with a fictional movie based on a fictional character not depicted in the real life scenarios of those movies you've come to love

or maybe not the movie, but the people who want to enjoy the movie
 
wutang said:
But we are African, how come white ppl can have game of thrones and its cool but we wanna watch the black panther and we hate ourselves. Ive seen you say ppl wanna start wearing dashiki's n thats wrong. I guess us black ppl wearing all that European gucci and loui is cool tho to u? I just don't see ur problem with a amazing hi tech beautiful civilization filled with nothing but black ppl shown on the big screen such a problem for you.
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our descendants are African, however outside of physical features we do not share enough with them to consider ourselves truly African. Many Africans will gladly point that out to you. Most folk have no idea where they trace back to. Even in the interview today Boseman smugly checked CTG and told him the ancestry test is not enough, you have to do a north African Ancestry test. And what does that reveal? It's not like you instantly inherit a language, culture, and a connection, you just know where your blood line traces back to. and You can go visit, and talk, and lear, and all you want to, but you're still more american than you will ever be African, and that's okay... but i feel like no one understands that...It ain't like you gonna walk in Africa, and strangers gonna see you like
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And i don't give a fuck about game of thrones, i never watched one episode of that shit.....and if a random ass white person think they really descendants of a character from game of thrones, then they just as cooky as they wanna be...

and another thing.. stop comparing us to whites... they don't do everything right...infact they do a whole lotta dumb ass shit....dressing up for movies is some dumb ass hit... that's why i see big movies matinee like weeks after the fact, cuz i hate trendy ass folk who overly worship shit on tv...

like i love rick and morty..funny as show....

but this shit right here

is fucking stupid...like retarded stupid......

i don't look at shit like this and say....

yeah...that guy is a true fan....

naw he's a fucking idiot.....



wutang said:
I guess us black ppl wearing all that European gucci and loui is cool tho to u?
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fuck no...that shit dumb as fuck too.... fuck i look like spending 100's and 1000's of dollars on some fucking european ass designer... shit's dumb....

niga you realize who i am?

i'm the nigga that bragged i spent $30 on a pair of jordans....

i am the absolute last person to get caught up in commercialized trends just cuz society thinks it's cool......

all that shit looks bad imo
wutang said:
I just don't see ur problem with a amazing hi tech beautiful civilization filled with nothing but black ppl shown on the big screen such a problem for you.
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also show me one post where i said i had a problem with the movie...i actually wanna see the movie too,.....

my issue is with the over the top fans.....
 
his point about white people and Game of Thrones was that it depicts them as kings and queens

c'mon man
 
AP21 said:
no one is saying those stories cant be told, but why are those the only ones allowed to be told
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no one said that. i just asked why are people tired of seeing shit that's still relevant.
AP21 said:
but the people who want to enjoy the movie
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thank you for clarifying i have no issue with the movie...

i have issue with the over the top fans who are going as far as to shame our culture to big up this movie like African culture is superior to Black american culture.

We are showing that we consider ourselves inferior to Africans, and trust me they already feel that they are superior to us...

and it just screams out some insecurities and other shit that i'm speaking out on....
 
AP21 said:
his point about white people and Game of Thrones was that it depicts them as kings and queens

c'mon man
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i don't give a fuck about them people though....
like what that got to do with anything???

i ain't checking for game of thrones or their fans....they do nothing to me or impact my opinion on this discussion in anyway...

i don't even understand it....

that shit might be about kings and queens, but ain't they full of incest, and murder, and chopping niggaz heads off, and dragons and wizards n shit?

like if they wanna embrace that wild shit....... go for it, i can give a fuck less
 
King Du said:
our descendants are African, however outside of physical features we do not share enough with them to consider ourselves truly African. Many Africans will gladly point that out to you. Most folk have no idea where they trace back to. Even in the interview today Boseman smugly checked CTG and told him the ancestry test is not enough, you have to do a north African Ancestry test. And what does that reveal? It's not like you instantly inherit a language, culture, and a connection, you just know where your blood line traces back to. and You can go visit, and talk, and lear, and all you want to, but you're still more american than you will ever be African, and that's okay... but i feel like no one understands that...It ain't like you gonna walk in Africa, and strangers gonna see you like
tenor.gif

And i don't give a fuck about game of thrones, i never watched one episode of that shit.....and if a random ass white person think they really descendants of a character from game of thrones, then they just as cooky as they wanna be...

and another thing.. stop comparing us to whites... they don't do everything right...infact they do a whole lotta dumb ass shit....dressing up for movies is some dumb ass hit... that's why i see big movies matinee like weeks after the fact, cuz i hate trendy ass folk who overly worship shit on tv...

like i love rick and morty..funny as show....

but this shit right here

is fucking stupid...like retarded stupid......

i don't look at shit like this and say....

yeah...that guy is a true fan....

naw he's a fucking idiot.....




fuck no...that shit dumb as fuck too.... fuck i look like spending 100's and 1000's of dollars on some fucking european ass designer... shit's dumb....

niga you realize who i am?

i'm the nigga that bragged i spent $30 on a pair of jordans....

i am the absolute last person to get caught up in commercialized trends just cuz society thinks it's cool......

all that shit looks bad imo

also show me one post where i said i had a problem with the movie...i actually wanna see the movie too,.....

my issue is with the over the top fans.....
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But being African is more about wats in are DNA we can be American but Africa is in our blood. I don't know if watch dragon ball z but its no different than how Goku was an earthling but he is still a saiyan by blood/ancestor. N brah I feel you with ppl being over the top like this movie gunna cure diseases, I think most ppl just wanna watch cuz its something different n its the biggest superhero movie whose main character was black since Blade.
 
wutang said:
But being African is more about wats in are DNA we can be American but Africa is in our blood. I don't know if watch dragon ball z but its no different than how Goku was an earthling but he is still a saiyan by blood/ancestor. N brah I feel you with ppl being over the top like this movie gunna cure diseases, I think most ppl just wanna watch cuz its something different n its the biggest superhero movie whose main character was black since Blade.
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being african is not just about your DNA,
it's about language, customs, traditions, inheritance, people, societal trends, family names, families in general...all that and then some....
you can't be just African....

and if u wanna use Goku... sure....

what does Vegeta, Nappa, Radditz, and pretty much every Pure blood Sayian initially ridicule Goku for?

Dude essentially is more human than saiyan....Vegeta definitely looks at Goku as inferior ..infact his entire character arc is because he's supposed to be superior to Goku and doesn't understand why he is stronger....


however with us, Africans feel as though they're superior to us, and we go right along with it
 
King Du said:
man i ain't movin past shit....i have no desire to pretend i'm just like a mtherfucker who don't wanna have shit to do with me in the first place...
most africans think black americans are lazy as fuck and they believe every stereotype that white folk have put out there bout us....

i'm fine with our history right here in america, Africa can keep their shit... that's the way they would have it anyway.....

like i said, i knew african folk who would actually hide their black american friends from their parents.....
talk about racist against our own people..

them Africans be racist as shit amongst black americans....
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I agree with you. They have their side too. That's all I'm saying. They believe we see them a certain way. Remember when Obama first ran and there was a segment of African Americans that were saying he wasn't really black because he's from Africa. Shit goes both ways. But if you don't give a fuck, then it is what it is. Not everyone has care about shit like that, but some people do.
 
After this movie comes out we gonna do a tournament of greatest black movies.

I'm curious as to how high Niggaz gonna rank this shit
 
King Du said:
the thread isn't dealing in specifics... it's talking about black people as a whole...and my opinion is directed to black people as a whole
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Right.

But surely you can name someone that you know personally that you know for a fact has never cared about African culture but is planning on perpetrating for this movie premiere.

Right?
 
King Du said:
being african is not just about your DNA,
it's about language, customs, traditions, inheritance, people, societal trends, family names, families in general...all that and then some....
you can't be just African....

and if u wanna use Goku... sure....

what does Vegeta, Nappa, Radditz, and pretty much every Pure blood Sayian initially ridicule Goku for?

Dude essentially is more human than saiyan....Vegeta definitely looks at Goku as inferior ..infact his entire character arc is because he's supposed to be superior to Goku and doesn't understand why he is stronger....


however with us, Africans feel as though they're superior to us, and we go right along with it
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If your talking about ethnicity yea, but being african/black is race thats a dna a thing that connects everybody in the diaspora.
In the dbz thing That is all true they through lil shots at Goku here n there but they all knew he was a sayian in the end, and wanted him to own it.
 
Jesus... I just read that long ass post Du made on the last page.

I feel sorry for you bro. I hope one day you open your eyes. They really got you thinking your family hates you. I can't even debate you on relationships within the African diaspora because your position is fundamentally flawed and extremely nihilistic.

I ain't even trying to be condescending either.
 
Soul_Rattler said:
Right.

But surely you can name someone that you know personally that you know for a fact has never cared about African culture but is planning on perpetrating for this movie premiere.

Right?
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Man, I don't be all up in people business like that to call them out one at a time, but I have definitely noticed an influx of folk gravitating to African themes directly related to the movie .

I guess the best example is folk who sell home made jewelry getting a boost in business cuz of their bp shit....
. Which is definitely a positive for them, but it's clear the interest went up cuz of the hype surrounding this
 
Soul_Rattler said:
Jesus... I just read that long ass post Du made on the last page.

I feel sorry for you bro. I hope one day you open your eyes. They really got you thinking your family hates you. I can't even debate you on relationships within the African diaspora because your position is fundamentally flawed and extremely nihilistic.

I ain't even trying to be condescending either.
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Dude save it.

I have an African name and an African wide nose.

People have been confusing me for an African my entire life.

And Everytime they realize I'm American with a genuine name from Mali I see the instant disgust creep on their faces.

Every
Single
Time

My wife works with an African chick.
Complete sweetheart until we got into the discussion of my name.

They don't fuck with us bruh. You ain't gotta feel sorry for me. You ain't gotta wait for me to wake up.

Y'all the ones living this dream where black Americans and Africans are all united like we the same...

Don't nobody claim us but us fam. And half our own don't even wanna do that much....

Y'all keep thinking I'm the one in the wrong...

But the funny part is every time I go on these rants Niggaz can't help but to see the shit I be talking about going forward...

Watch how many people realize they more killmonger than t'challa watching this movie. Americans desperate to be accepted as African. Shit gonna be irony at it's finest
 
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