Well then why in the other thread you were considering those things handouts. Y’all argued me down about it. But then agree with it. So in reality you disagree with the poster and not the actual subject. Seems like you just wanna argue.
I've been really clear on the subject of minimum wage: It should not be $15/hr but about $11/hr, which economists have stated would give it the same buying power as the 60's, when minimum wage had it's greatest impact on folk's finances. I also pointed out that only 1% of people working full time and only 5% of part time workers even make minimum wage, meaning that the overwhelming majority of people already make
MORE than minimum wage, something you've managed to overlook. (edit) I've also repeatedly stated it should be higher in states/cities with a high cost of living AND that those states/municipalities are free to enact whatever form of minimum wage they want; they juct can't go below the federal minimum.(end edit)
I've also said that people that make $2 and change in tipped positions deserve more money per hour so they don't have to rely on tips for their livelihood. Somehow y'all took offense to that, but it's perfectly logical that if your starting rate was much higher, you don't need tips to live.
As for handouts: I've pointed out how it creates dependency on the government for everything. Most folks know at least one familiy that has lived in the projects or other low income housing, on food stamps, etc for literal generations because they have no want to do better. This exemplifies precisely what I argued:
"... Complacency begets dependence ..."
I never said people don't deserve help or that the government shouldn't help. In fact, quite the opposite as I've complained about how states fucked up the housing assistance for all these people that couldn't pay rent and are now out on the street because the moratorium ended. What I've said was that people shouldn't rely
solely on the government to live and have even pointed to things like skilled trades that folks can get into to get out of that rut.
I stay on topic but I don't agree with extremes, whether left or right. The solution to peoples problems don't exist in either extremist ideology.