PhenomTheMac
OG
Of course he is, hes on a victory lap at this point.
Is J Cole a Legend?
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Dwayne
Not Like Us
You can’t for Meek
Hey...let it happen lol
Inori
NAWF
I was thinking along the same lines. Kendrick, Drake and Cole are the top 3 of their generation for the most part.
KRIT number 4
*ducks*
lol
Loch121
OG
Usually,yes
Plus looks at his level of comp.
And along with being respected lyrically,Cole makes huge multi platinum singles.
J Cole only has two serious competitors
one isn’t a full fledged rapper and the other hasn’t dropped an album in 5 years
Loch121
OG
nah there's other comp.
I just named the biggest artists
Doesn't really matter when Kendrick last dropped .
He did do the BP soundtrack
LOL Drake is still considered a rapper.
unspoken_respect
Progressive Conspiracy Theorist
He's CLOSE. There aren't many rappers I can think of today besides Lupe that I've seen their craft improve and evolve as they grew over the years. Cole changed his style and did that well. That's growth.
Most rappers are at their peak and slowly decline. Almost always, and everyone just kind of accepts it as if it's the nature of rappers. They don't know how to change. That's a skill.
Growth is what separates the legendary, great, average, and trash rappers. The great rappers maintain the longest while everyone below them falls off. Legendary rappers may decline but they also rise later in their careers and at times with classics.
I don't like giving the goat title to rappers but if I had to give it to anybody Nas just proved he deserves it. That growth between 2 classic (with classic albums in between) album's that don't resemble each other in anyway, are separated by are decades, and over 10 albums. Who else has that? True legend.
Off-Season was years in the making with the teaser songs preceeding it showing that he's an elite engineer with his lyrics now. Laser focus on whatever the subject is with dope lyrics to match. It seems effortless for him now.
I'm expecting his best album yet and I mean that. After the Off-Season he can't be denied anymore.
Unfortunately for Pusha T, J Cole guaranteed his album might be second best.
Most rappers are at their peak and slowly decline. Almost always, and everyone just kind of accepts it as if it's the nature of rappers. They don't know how to change. That's a skill.
Growth is what separates the legendary, great, average, and trash rappers. The great rappers maintain the longest while everyone below them falls off. Legendary rappers may decline but they also rise later in their careers and at times with classics.
I don't like giving the goat title to rappers but if I had to give it to anybody Nas just proved he deserves it. That growth between 2 classic (with classic albums in between) album's that don't resemble each other in anyway, are separated by are decades, and over 10 albums. Who else has that? True legend.
Off-Season was years in the making with the teaser songs preceeding it showing that he's an elite engineer with his lyrics now. Laser focus on whatever the subject is with dope lyrics to match. It seems effortless for him now.
I'm expecting his best album yet and I mean that. After the Off-Season he can't be denied anymore.
Unfortunately for Pusha T, J Cole guaranteed his album might be second best.
That’s his only REAL competition though no? Lol you gonna tell me wale?
Im not counting the soundtrack but if you want to fine
yeah but full fledged rapper? No I’m not eliminating drake I’m just saying there’s a caveat
This is legendary? Low bar imoAll with no features
2014 Forest Hill Drive -Platinum
2016 4 Your Eyes Only - Platinum
2018 KOD - Platinum (it was good album)
First two albums
Sideline story was very good
Born Sinner was very good.
He don’t miss and give that man his roses
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Big Sean
Nickki
Meek Mill
Kevin Gates (music is always fire)
Krit
Quavo
YG
Mac Miller
Tyga
Not sure you would count them but that his competition
Natural Born Sinners
Active Member
He not a legend to me. Mainly due to his own album catalog. Truth is right now, he is a very talented artist. But let's be honest, his album catalog has been underwhelming. Let's use Kendrick for comparison. They came out at same time. Kendrick has a certified classic and a debatable one, maybe more to some people.
Mafuzzychef
Active Member
yes
I’m not about to go back n forth about it cause you wasn’t on a college campus to see where his impact was felt and the fanbase he cultivated.
hes better than every mainstream dude in his class outside of kdot and better commercially than all but dot and Drake
this being a debate proves this ain’t a hip hop site lol
I’m not about to go back n forth about it cause you wasn’t on a college campus to see where his impact was felt and the fanbase he cultivated.
hes better than every mainstream dude in his class outside of kdot and better commercially than all but dot and Drake
this being a debate proves this ain’t a hip hop site lol
Inori
NAWF
I'm not mad at most of your argument... but using that "You wasnt in the college dorms back then" shit? Nah bruh lol that aint gon cut it
Mafuzzychef
Active Member
I’m Just saying, 3 Cole shows and if you been in the crowd and seen the legs he bring out
iykyk
PhenomTheMac
OG
2 critically acclaimed mixtapes before his 1st major release (warmup and friday night lights)
6 (and counting) platinum albums out the gate.
A run of features with multiple verse of the year candidates
Undisputed top 3 rapper of his generation, as mentioned multiple times in this very thread.
And hes done it on his own, penned, produced, and performed by him alone.
Hip hop ain't die when we got old, these kids get to have legends too. And cole is without question one of them.
6 (and counting) platinum albums out the gate.
A run of features with multiple verse of the year candidates
Undisputed top 3 rapper of his generation, as mentioned multiple times in this very thread.
And hes done it on his own, penned, produced, and performed by him alone.
Hip hop ain't die when we got old, these kids get to have legends too. And cole is without question one of them.