COMMUNITY Is A Universal Basic Income A Good Idea?

[NeighborhoodNomad]

I was watching last night's episode of The Daily Show and the guest was talking about a universal basic income and how the people will benefit from it. It's basically free money for everyone every month forever.

According to wikipedia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income

A basic income, also called basic income guarantee, universal basic income (UBI), basic living stipend (BLS) or universal demogrant, is a type of program in which citizens (or permanent residents) of a country may receive a regular sum of money from the government. A pure or unconditional basic income has no means test, much like Social Security in the United States. Basic income can be implemented nationally, regionally or locally.

An unconditional income that is sufficient to meet a person's basic needs (at or above the poverty line), is called full basic income, while if it is less than that amount, it is called partial.

Some welfare systems are related to basic income but have certain conditions. As these are not universal, they are more often referred to as guaranteed minimum income systems. For example, Bolsa Família in Brasil is restricted to poor families and the children are obligated to attend school.

A related welfare system is negative income tax, in which the government stipend is gradually reduced with higher labor income.







I think it's a good idea. I think most things should be free but that's another topic... But I think this a good idea and I think it should continue to be explored and practiced.

So what do you think? Can universal basic income change the quality of our lives for the better? Is universal basic income a good idea or is it just gonna make things worse? Or do you think nothing will change at all?

 

[DOS_patos]

i think this is where someone will need to learn a life skill.

the life skill most dont understand.

how to manage your finances.

if you give people free money....most people will become lazy and dependent and live enough to make it to the next month.

this will control massive amounts of people and keep a certain element in poverty.

 

[NeighborhoodNomad]

That's a common argument that's made but the studies have shown that it did just the opposite. Studies show that a universal basic income encouraged more entrepreneurship and impoved the quality of living. It also showed that it gave people more time to learn and pursue their goals. It shows that it didn't make people lazy or more financially irresponsible but gave them more resources to pursue a more meaningful career.

 

[konceptjones]

That's a common argument that's made but the studies have shown that it did just the opposite. Studies show that a universal basic income encouraged more entrepreneurship and impoved the quality of living. It also showed that it gave people more time to learn and pursue their goals. It shows that it didn't make people lazy or more financially irresponsible but gave them more resources to pursue a more meaningful career.

Post those studies.

 

[DOS_patos]

That's a common argument that's made but the studies have shown that it did just the opposite. Studies show that a universal basic income encouraged more entrepreneurship and impoved the quality of living. It also showed that it gave people more time to learn and pursue their goals. It shows that it didn't make people lazy or more financially irresponsible but gave them more resources to pursue a more meaningful career.

in what country?

are we talking drug dealing entrepreneurship?

we need a basic education system first, otherwise people wont know how to think.

trump is president bruh. what that tell you?

 

[DOS_patos]

and how much we talking?

because the cost of living comes into play in certain areas.

 

[CeLLar-DooR]

Yes it is. The world is movin' toward social democracy (hence the right wing goin' crazy in every country) and it wouldn't surprise me if all the major countries had basic incomes in a few generations.

 

[DOS_patos]

Yes it is. The world is movin' toward social democracy (hence the right wing goin' crazy in every country) and it wouldn't surprise me if all the major countries had basic incomes in a few generations.

please explain how.

without the proper education how is it good?

 

[Playmaker88]

"Proper education"

They dont teach you to critically think. at all they educate you to meet benchmarks..

So people are not intellectually curious and just take dictation i think the teaching models discourage teacher/students from deviating All about the standards rather than producing thinkers..

 

[Moist Feelings]

No such thing as free money. Every printed dollar decreases the over all value of the currency.

It's "Free Trial" socialism so it's bad. But it's being caused by the capitalist implementation of wide spread automation.

Basically it's all bad.

 

[SeaSnake]

Im cool with it

 

[DOS_patos]

also....does this apply to people with a job?

do i still get money?

Is there a max amount that cant be crossed to get this money?

 

[Babelipsss]

That's a common argument that's made but the studies have shown that it did just the opposite. Studies show that a universal basic income encouraged more entrepreneurship and impoved the quality of living. It also showed that it gave people more time to learn and pursue their goals. It shows that it didn't make people lazy or more financially irresponsible but gave them more resources to pursue a more meaningful career.

Finland just ended their basic income program early. Didn't work out.

 

[King Freeman]

I'd like to see this done with education and health care. I don't know about just handing niggas cash tho.

 

[Zagreus]

When automation and AI take over this is basically going to be mandatory.

That is what all this talk is preparing us for, anything else is smokescreens

 

[DOS_patos]

When automation and AI take over this is basically going to be mandatory.

That is what all this talk is preparing us for, anything else is smokescreens

and you niggas see why i fucking with AI now?
I already fucks with a type of automation...but even thats being integrated into bigger automation.....

people gonna be second thoughts

 

[NeighborhoodNomad]

Post those studies.

in what country?

are we talking drug dealing entrepreneurship?

we need a basic education system first, otherwise people wont know how to think.

trump is president bruh. what that tell you?

They're experimenting with this in a few countries.

Some of the studies are
in the videos I posted in the o/p.

 

[Allergens]

Prices would just raise to make that income equivalent to nothing.

 

[NeighborhoodNomad]

Finland just ended their basic income program early. Didn't work out.

What were the reasons they cut the program?

Why did they say it didn't work?

Also there's several types of universal basic income approaches. Maybe that approach just didn't work at the time.

 

[NeighborhoodNomad]

also....does this apply to people with a job?

do i still get money?

Is there a max amount that cant be crossed to get this money?

Yes it's universal so you still get the same amount of money as everyone even if you have a job or are self employed.