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HipHop Hasn't Done Anything Good For Black People

konceptjones said:
When you think about it in that sense, Umar is right. 50 years later and "the community" as a whole has not benefited from hip hop but a number of individuals have.
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I posted on here but thar was my main issue with Timbaland and Swizz along with a few others who try to present their individual wins as wins for us all. And that's often not the case. I disagree that hip hop hasn't done anything for the Black community because that's false. But I do agree that folks presenting their personal wins as wins for us all often gets conflated and is a manipulation tool.
 
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During this most recent Hurricane Chris thing he framed his beef (pause) in terms of what Fif was doing for the community of Shreveport and on one side niggas were saying he brought so many rich people to the city and on the other he put $$ in Master P and these niggas hands..Now, of the 177k people in the city, how many are positively affected by either side of that argument?

Will any Black children get a better education, less murderous police or safer communities as a result of rich people going there? Would it if Hurricane Chris got 30k to perform? Are there scholarships associated with that? HBCU endowments?

That’s what he means when he says individualist shit. The real benefits of hip hop are what Lyor Cohen reaps in that he can build his community from it. That’s the meat, we get the grease. Or guns and butter, whatever.

This nigga talking bout it created podcast jobs (Grease) is of the same roots as ‘black jobs’. We not thinking on any level that transforms our situation.

Dr. Umar is spot on here.
 
NinetyFree said:
During this most recent Hurricane Chris thing he framed his beef (pause) in terms of what Fif was doing for the community of Shreveport and on one side niggas were saying he brought so many rich people to the city and on the other he put $$ in Master P and these niggas hands..Now, of the 177k people in the city, how many are positively affected by either side of that argument?

Will any Black children get a better education, less murderous police or safer communities as a result of rich people going there? Would it if Hurricane Chris got 30k to perform? Are there scholarships associated with that? HBCU endowments?

That’s what he means when he says individualist shit. The real benefits of hip hop are what Lyor Cohen reaps in that he can build his community from it. That’s the meat, we get the grease. Or guns and butter, whatever.

This nigga talking bout it created podcast jobs (Grease) is of the same roots as ‘black jobs’. We not thinking on any level that transforms our situation.

Dr. Umar is spot on here.
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Those are questions for ppl in charge of your tax dollars not rappers
 
NinetyFree said:
During this most recent Hurricane Chris thing he framed his beef (pause) in terms of what Fif was doing for the community of Shreveport and on one side niggas were saying he brought so many rich people to the city and on the other he put $$ in Master P and these niggas hands..Now, of the 177k people in the city, how many are positively affected by either side of that argument?

Will any Black children get a better education, less murderous police or safer communities as a result of rich people going there? Would it if Hurricane Chris got 30k to perform? Are there scholarships associated with that? HBCU endowments?

That’s what he means when he says individualist shit. The real benefits of hip hop are what Lyor Cohen reaps in that he can build his community from it. That’s the meat, we get the grease. Or guns and butter, whatever.

This nigga talking bout it created podcast jobs (Grease) is of the same roots as ‘black jobs’. We not thinking on any level that transforms our situation.

Dr. Umar is spot on here.
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The things you just listed are political issues that unless a rapper runs for office they can't actually do anything about. So if the measuring gauge is political progress then that goes back to something I believe it was Malcom X who often along with many others very much disliked putting those expectations onto musicians and others simply because they're famous for music.
 
TTBF said:
What is its use to the community? How does it serve the black community positively?
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Hip Hop has helped create an entire black entrepreneurial class which would nt exist without it

For example
Without hip hop how is 50 cent able to put 20 million of his own money into not only developing a studio in downtown Shreveport

Which in turn will help the community it serves in the long run
 
Elzo69Renaissance said:
Hip Hop has helped create an entire black entrepreneurial class which would nt exist without it

For example
Without hip hop how is 50 cent able to put 20 million of his own money into not only developing a studio in downtown Shreveport

Which in turn will help the community it serves in the long run
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Lol that's peace.
 
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