Fixing The DCEU

[VulcanRaven]

BvS damn near put me to sleep. Even the action scenes. Their movies are ugly too like the art direction is brown and gray like last generation Unreal Engine games. Its visually unpleasant. I enjoy the animated BvS based on the comic and bought those movies.

 

[TheNightKing]

I liked Batman v Superman for the most part. Suicide Squad I didn't mind. It was dragged so badly when I eventually saw it it was nowhere near as bad as I expected it. The editing was atrocious but I really expected much much worse. Haven't watched it since the cinema though.

It was the opposite of The Avengers where I expected much much better and walked out so pissed that outside of Spider-Man and Iron Man 3 (on FX!) I haven't watched an MCU movie since.

Justice League was the real heartbreaker. It was ok at best. It should've been great or at least epic. Stings more especially with the recent revelation that Steppenwolf was originally the Suicide Squad villain and JL was a Darkseid focused 2 parter.

I loathed Man of Steel when it came out. Enjoy it a bit more now but still find it too drab and uninspiring for a Superman movie. What they did to Pa Kent was a complete betrayal and pretty much why this version of Superman seems so fucked up. Its like if Uncle Ben had said "Abuse all your power, fuck responsibility".

So I'm far from Snyder's biggest defender. The way WB did him was bogus though. Let the man complete his vision at least before you dump him. They fired him in the middle of him completing his Superman trilogy. That hurt them way more than it would've had they just let it ride out.

For the record Kevin Tsujihara is out. Toby Emmerich is the overseer of these movies on the WB end and they hired James Wan's friend to redirect the DC end. Nevertheless Emmerich is no more better than Tsujihara was so I'll wait and see.

So you hate all of the MCU but handing out passes to all of the DCEU movies EXCEPT Man of Steel?

 

[Broddie]

So you hate all of the MCU but handing out passes to all of the DCEU movies EXCEPT Man of Steel?

Man of Steel was straight trash to me. I a lifelong Superman fan and on initial view it was even worse than Superman Returns (which sucked). It was a movie made for people who don't get Superman by people who don't get Superman's appeal.

I've learned to accept it but enjoyed the sequel more on initial view. Probably cause of my very low expectations. Handing out passes? What?!? I said Suicide Squad was nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be. That doesn't mean I said it was good just that as always the internet was way overdramatic about its actual wackness. The fact that I haven't watched it since should be telling. Also how is calling JL a heartbreaker a way of giving it a pass?

Hell the only DCEU movies I've even watched more than once are MOS and WW and I only really like one of those. I do think the MCU is unappealing as fuck but I'm not a Marvel fan and those movies dont appeal to me so there's that. That's why you never see me discuss them. I don't care.

With that said I just call it how I see it. My honest opinion both brands have come up short more often than not. Especially when compared to genuinely great event movies like T2 or The Matrix.

Only 2 that came close to that by my estimation are the first Iron Man and Wonder Woman so far. Honestly even though I read superhero comics and watch some of the TV shows I really don't care all that much for superhero movies. At least the ones that have dropped and overflooded the biz since 2000. I barely watch them anymore as is.

Only reason I even posted in here was to give my take on how I'd fix this mess

 

[TheNightKing]

Man of Steel was straight trash to me. I a lifelong Superman fan and on initial view it was even worse than Superman Returns (which sucked). It was a movie made for people who don't get Superman by people who don't get Superman's appeal.

I've learned to accept it but enjoyed the sequel more on initial view. Probably cause of my very low expectations. Handing out passes? What?!? I said Suicide Squad was nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be. That doesn't mean I said it was good just that as always the internet was way overdramatic about its actual wackness. The fact that I haven't watched it since should be telling. Also how is calling JL a heartbreaker a way of giving it a pass?

Hell the only DCEU movies I've even watched more than once are MOS and WW and I only really like one of those. I do think the MCU is unappealing as fuck but I'm not a Marvel fan and those movies dont appeal to me so there's that. That's why you never see me discuss them. I don't care.

With that said I just call it how I see it. My honest opinion both brands have come up short more often than not. Especially when compared to genuinely great event movies like T2 or The Matrix.

Only 2 that came close to that by my estimation are the first Iron Man and Wonder Woman so far. Honestly even though I read superhero comics and watch some of the TV shows I really don't care all that much for superhero movies. At least the ones that have dropped and overflooded the biz since 2000. I barely watch them anymore as is.

Only reason I even posted in here was to give my take on how I'd fix this mess

I can respect that.