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Fair or Foul? Trans HS wrestler winning female wrestling titles

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Race Jones said:
“These people need psychiatric help”

I bet you also believe in electricshock therapy for gay people?
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Learn something. The full text of Dr Paul McHugh's article

http://archive.is/vuIqI

Here's the thing you're forgetting: This man has over 40 years of service in this field under his belt at Johns Hopkins. The very same Johns Hopkins that did the very first sex reassignment surgeries in history. The very same Johns Hopkins that stopped doing them in '79 because they came to the conclusion that they didn't work as planned because many of the recipients of the surgery were still troubled mentally and committing suicide. (However as of last year, Johns Hopkins finally caved to the immense pressure by the LGBT community to start doing them again). What credentials do you and your ilk have?
 
Foul.

Like a shot gon suddenly remove natural aptitude and aggression.

Cyborg had to take considerable amounts of gear to even come close to a mans innate aggression.

Yall can think he aint got the perks if you want... Put your daughter up against him.
 
There’s tranny’s in my command right now. I understand they’re right to be whatever the fuck.. but all this extra complaining about trivial shit is what I don’t get. The fucked up thing is... you can get a gender reassignment surgery for free in the military (after you go through all the legal shit), but if you’re a woman who can’t have kids & want to do in vitro fertilization they won’t pay for it.

A coworker of mines wife is tryin to have kids and found this out. SMH
 
I went back to look at this... To clarify this for everyone Mack Beggs is a biological female, aka a "transman". However Mack Beggs started hormone therapy, which means the development of musculature of a biological male for as long as the hormones are taken. It's the equivalent of a chick taking steroids to beat her opponents except it's being done by a "transman" so that's supposed to make it ok. All of the advantages of male hormones are raging through this female so it's only natural she's gonna win like this.
 
She should be wrestling boys then. Can’t have it both ways. She should finish her transition & train to wrestle boys. How hard is this?
 
konceptjones said:
Being real Race, people like you are what's doing the real damage to Trans people. Trans people need psychiatric help, not hormones and surgery. No other condition similar to this get's the treatment a transperson gets:

"I'm Jesus Christ, follow me my children" - straight to the crazy house
"I feel fat even though I weigh 72lbs holding a bag of rocks" - mental treatment for you too
"I'm really a wolf and identify as such" - straight jacket, rubber room, and meds for you pal.
"I'm a woman trapped in a man's body" - nothing wrong, perfectly normal.

Surely you can see the problem here?

The problem stems from their inability to see what they actually are biologically and is no different that an anorexic or bulimic that always see themselves as fat. At no point in time has it ever been advisable to give into their conditions, in fact, quite the opposite. Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former Chief of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Hospital and Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University, author of over 200, peer reviewed papers and 6 books and notable scholar in transgenderism and sex reassignment surgery with 40 years under his belt has stated

“We have wasted scientific and technical resources and damaged our professional credibility by collaborating with madness rather than trying to study, cure, and ultimately prevent it.”

and

“We psychiatrists, I thought, would do better to concentrate on trying to fix their minds and not their genitalia,”

"surgical alteration to the body of these unfortunate people was to collaborate with a mental disorder rather than to treat it."

Johns Hopkins Psychiatry Department "concluded that human sexual identity is mostly built into our constitution by the genes we inherit and the embryogenesis we undergo." This made it "quite clear" that "we psychiatrists should work to discourage those adults who seek surgical sex reassignment."

Trans activists "still argue that their members are entitled to whatever surgery they want, and they still claim that their sexual dysphoria represents a true conception of their sexual identity." The doctor argues that these same activists have provided "little evidence" to refute scientific arguments that transgenderism is a psychological disorder.

“One might expect that those who claim that sexual identity has no biological or physical basis would bring forth more evidence to persuade others,” concluded McHugh. “But as I’ve learned, there is a deep prejudice in favor of the idea that nature is totally malleable.”

These people need serious and mental help, and by denying this people like you cause them more harm than good. One of the latest studies on transgendered children stated that up to 80% of kids like this spontaneously lose that feeling as they get older. This means that the majority of kids that are on hormone blockers and shit like that are basically being abused, as they would normally just stop thinking they're the opposite sex. Instead the hormones and shit fuck up their bodies and they're never allowed to mature properly which can be far more devastating. A boy that had been given blockers at a young age that suddenly loses his trans identity late in his teens would now have to deal with having an underdeveloped penis, no facial hair, feminine features, feminine voice, and fat distribution (meaning he may have hips, a butt, and larger breasts). He no longer feels as though he's a female, yet because of the treatments he now looks like one and once off the hormones he'll begin going back to being male, which means going through the next 5-6 years of puberty much later in life than he should.
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grYmes said:
There’s tranny’s in my command right now. I understand they’re right to be whatever the fuck.. but all this extra complaining about trivial shit is what I don’t get. The fucked up thing is... you can get a gender reassignment surgery for free in the military (after you go through all the legal shit), but if you’re a woman who can’t have kids & want to do in vitro fertilization they won’t pay for it.

A coworker of mines wife is tryin to have kids and found this out. SMH
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"If the military wants you to have a family they will issue you one."
 
From what I've read, the jury is split on this as far as the science goes. Apparently, it does seem that people do lose most of the traits which would provide a male advantage in sports when they transition, but it takes a long time. I doubt that kid in the pics has been exposed to female hormones long enough for the competition to actually be level.

Foul.
 
I really wish some of y'all would read the article before replying.

That's a female transitioning to male. She wanted to wrestle with the boys but they wouldn't let her. So now she dominating the girl division because of the advantage she has taking testosterone/steroids for her transition to male.


FOUL! Let her fight with the boys imo.
 
WilberDMillz said:
I really wish some of y'all would read the article before replying.

That's a female transitioning to male. She wanted to wrestle with the boys but they wouldn't let her. So now she dominating the girl division because of the advantage she has taking testosterone/steroids for her transition to male.


FOUL! Let her fight with the boys imo.
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konceptjones said:
I went back to look at this... To clarify this for everyone Mack Beggs is a biological female, aka a "transman". However Mack Beggs started hormone therapy, which means the development of musculature of a biological male for as long as the hormones are taken. It's the equivalent of a chick taking steroids to beat her opponents except it's being done by a "transman" so that's supposed to make it ok. All of the advantages of male hormones are raging through this female so it's only natural she's gonna win like this.
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Don't know whether it's fair or foul, but it's definitely hilarious considering today's climate.


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WilberDMillz said:
I really wish some of y'all would read the article before replying.

That's a female transitioning to male. She wanted to wrestle with the boys but they wouldn't let her. So now she dominating the girl division because of the advantage she has taking testosterone/steroids for her transition to male.


FOUL! Let her fight with the boys imo.
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It's not right either way.


Don't understand why it's not looked at as a PED situation since it gives her an unfair advantage.
 
I mean...they shoulda just let him wrestle with the boys.

When I was in hs we had this chick on the wrestling team that wrestled whoever was in her weight class cuz they didn't have enough girls in the division to make their own team. So she was wrestling (and beating) a bunch of boys.
 
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