Well, I could take the craziness going on in Chicago right now. It is not true that those people shooting up the spot are surrounded by bad people all the time. They chose that life. There are good people they could look towards and work to change their situation. There are also bad influences as well. They choose the bad influences to make their choices. Over-simplified, but understandable.
Does drill music have a negative influence on the black community?
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Old Man Cain
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aight den
DOS_patos
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But good people come from the grimest parts of Chicago and any hood.
the CEO of Merck a global pharma company came from north philly. So did Bernard Hopkins, AR AB and the Allegheny doe boys.
So you have drug dealers, world boxing title holders and a ceo all from one hood. Different parts but the same hood.
environment means nothing with the proper influence.
Good points
SeaSnake
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My thing is these noggas ain’t talking bout the full issue. The bad music is influenced by a bad environment but anytime noggas talk about making the environment better these same niggas say that’s just the way it is no use complaining etc. Crime in the black community which is the main issue existed before drill existed before trap existed before gangsta rap. But they on the symptom not the cause
SeaSnake
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So now we getting to the real issue
DOS_patos
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And that is?
SeaSnake
OG
That environment can put in places with not a lot of good choices
SeaSnake
OG
are black suburbs places you won’t go tho?
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Irrelevant
SeaSnake
OG
No it’s not don’t get me wrong I know Some suburban born noggas that was on stupid shit. But it won’t just the music they wouldn’t do that shit on their street.
Dwayne
Not Like Us
SeaSnake
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That’s your problem you want it to be one thing when it’s many things. You moved your kids to nice neighborhood because the bad one has less resources less ways out abd can lead to them emulating bullshit
Nobody argues that music is an influence. But is it the reason somebody chooses to do what what they do? No.
The mob was controlling shit when ppl was listening to frankie valli and tony bennett. Was yall blaming country music for January 6th?
The mob was controlling shit when ppl was listening to frankie valli and tony bennett. Was yall blaming country music for January 6th?
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Like you just said. It’s many things and music is part.
The person making the music is part of it.
Dwayne
Not Like Us
The spoken word is to blame to January 6th. Just because a beat ain’t tied to what their leaders was saying to do, don’t mean it’s different.
A poem, speech or record can have people doing a bunch of good or a bunch of bad.
Just because a beat to attached to these words don’t mean it’s any different from folks like Hitler or Trump giving speeches/directions on what to do.
Bobjones
Active Member
I think it does only if the content of the lyrics mirrors a persons living, breathing reality. If ur already caught up in that environment the music might act like a catalyst to reinforce/ entrench the lifestyles and codes ur already exposed to first hand. It's like adding fuel to the flames.
On the other hand If ur some kid in the suburbs living relatively safe and secure the music's nothing but a harmless form of entertainment.
Overall, there's greater problems to address than rap music. Music is partly a reflection of society, it comes after the fact of whatever problems exist.
On the other hand If ur some kid in the suburbs living relatively safe and secure the music's nothing but a harmless form of entertainment.
Overall, there's greater problems to address than rap music. Music is partly a reflection of society, it comes after the fact of whatever problems exist.
Not disagreeing with that, but the bigger issue is what is/was going in their life that had them susceptible to those influences to where they could even be acted on. 2020 changed many ppls lives for the worst and made them fearful and they were willing to go to the extreme to get some "normalcy" back.
Not to sympathize with them folk cuz fuck em. But im saying the conditions and mind state were already ripe for that influence to give em the push. The influence didn't create it. It was already there.
DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
Did you not just see my example of people from the same environment