a.mann
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He been holding that in for quite some time lol
He isn't the only one.....Joe actually surprise me as to how hard.....yeah I know
he's been going at Envy
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He been holding that in for quite some time lol
If this is true, even with a plea I want him in jailThere s a few ppl who asked Envy on the low if they should invest w Caesar and Envy told them hell no u ain’t getting ur bread back
This is according to Tony the Closer…. Supposedly the Omi in the HellCat dude asked Envy if he should invest and Envy told him fuck no
Basically Envy was letting his friends know that this wasn’t a good investment while letting others get raped
Envy ain't shyt.. ain't some point he had to know the jig was up and its not a good investment.... yet he supposed to be a victim too
You don't go back to the property once you've been filming outside of it?
You don't check back in with the people who have put money down?
He is very complicit even if he didn't intentionally try to defraud people. His lack of due diligence is his downfall.
There were some private messages posted by Tony the closer allegedly between him and Envy going as far back as August 2022, where envy basically knew something funny was going on with cesar as he mentioned his disgruntlement with him owing him some money and money laundering on cesar's part. If true, then I look at it as to what were you doing after that point because you may claim ignorance to the fraud and ponzi if the money wasn't coming direct you, but once you knew something wasn't right and you still were promoting, then by hook or by crook, you need to stand next to your man in that frying pan.
Also i just found this source article from as recent as February 2023 where the source interviewed BOTH cesar and envy "over the holidays" (so I'm guessing in and around Christmas time), as they were due to come out with a property reality show on A&E executively produced by 50 Cent. So envy was stilling running this "scam" onto another platform of reality tv and got 50 linked into this shit?! Article link below:
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DJ Envy & Flippin NJ Talks Real Estate Show, Legacy, Disruption & More
Raashaun "DJ Envy" Casey has grown into the face of hip-hop real estate with years of investing success, mentorship, and disruptionthesource.com
There s a few ppl who asked Envy on the low if they should invest w Caesar and Envy told them hell no u ain’t getting ur bread back
This is according to Tony the Closer…. Supposedly the Omi in the HellCat dude asked Envy if he should invest and Envy told him fuck no
Basically Envy was letting his friends know that this wasn’t a good investment while letting others get raped
The gist is nigga was getting Envy to be all in the videos promoting the business. People thought his affiliation with the business made it a legit investment opportunity but they nigga Pina was schemingAnybody know the actual DETAILS of this shit? And I don't mean the broad strokes.
This already happened bInb4 movie quotes about a dumb mfer deserving to get fired get used to justify jailing a dumb mfer for 20 years.
Lmaoooo
Life really is a movie for some of yall
The gist is nigga was getting Envy to be all in the videos promoting the business. People thought his affiliation with the business made it a legit investment opportunity but they nigga Pina was scheming
You are using critical thinking skills. Ya know, asking questions to understood make an informed decision....NOT the broad strokes. ^^^Them is broad strokes. I mean the DETAILS. Cuz I'll be honest son, all I'm really seeing is a bunch of niggas who don't seem to have any idea about what is actually going on talking like they know what's going on. Maybe niggas have more information on this than I do or have read Ceasar's indictment or whatever. But it seems like pretty much everybody is just talking out their ass.
From where I'm sitting, seems like Envy is prolly just a silly nigga who got suckered in by his homie on some shit he thought was legit and got got, but is a bigger part of it because he used his name and celebrity to promote the shit. Maybe made some money off hosting seminars with the nigga but didn't participate in the actual Ponzi scheme portion of it.
But again, that's just me putting the pieces together with the limited information I have. I can't, on good faith, run around talking like Envy did this or that without something more to go on than the information I have now.
And nobody else really seems to have any more information than what I have.
I dunno, man. Maybe I'm missing something. That's why I'm asking.
If Envy comes out clean, yall need to remember that ignorance and not knowing isnt a crime.
Negligence can be a crime.
Im not saying Envy shouldnt go to jail. If he was involved in the scam, he should go down.
But if he was just stupid and got manipulated and played, then he just a dumb mfer. No jail time for being a dumb mfer.