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I agree a woman has agency of her own. Again your analogy isn't misunderstood I just don't think it works. Not agreeing doesn't mean misunderstanding and since you mentioned agency I do have the personal agency to take that stance. What you seem to often miss though is that where you may draw a logical conclusion and stop others will keep going. As seen in this very thread there's been varying degrees of what people feel holding someone accountable means and it has teetered into the territory of "well why is this even in court to begin with".

I think where you often mistep in these discussions is assuming other people will stop where you do and that unfortunately isn't the case. Again you can see in this very thread some believe that "she wanted the freak offs. She knew what came with it" So to some holding them accountable means less punishment for the actual abuser. So while you may not take that leap, the fact that others will can't be ignored. Folks want a public shaming and in this case even legal consequences for the people being abused.

You have the agency to take the stance that W is the biggest number. That doesn't make that stance any less stupid. You can't say that the analogy isn't misunderstood and then continue to double down on something that's besides the point. Again, the analogy was not a direct comparison between gangbangers and abuse victims. For the last time, that's not how analogies work. This is a really dumb hill to die on.

There will always be people who take things too far, but does that mean we should just ignore reality. If it is a fact, that some of these victims made conscious choices to partake in these crazy lives, that should be acknowledged. Period. If people come along and say that victim compliance excuses abuse, they should be corrected and argued against. That's fine.
 
You shut up pussy.

Sounding like a bitch...you just want Puff to come home..

Nigga you sound like a straight up ponk

Lemon Zinger tea drinking in the morning with a bagel as bitch

You just want Puff to come home...
Then you say it like a nigga who is 6'6, 290 that wears sandals.

You just want Puff to come home lol

A big buff faggot...nigga go do 50 pushups
 
Boy ill make you hate yourself...
6'6, 290 ass nigga that kills bugs with his sandals..

Retarded ass nigga man smh.
Boy you a silly ass nigga frfr
 
Sounding like a bitch...you just want Puff to come home..

Nigga you sound like a straight up ponk

Lemon Zinger tea drinking in the morning with a bagel as bitch

You just want Puff to come home...
Then you say it like a nigga who is 6'6, 290 that wears sandals.

You just want Puff to come home lol

A big buff faggot...nigga go do 50 pushups
I get it. It's not your fault man.

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I get it. It's not your fault man.

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Look at this...

What you need to get is get out them sandals my nigga.

Thats what you need to get...get them sandals off them feet..
You 6'6, 290 nigga

Stop walking around in the grocery stores with sandals.


6'6 290 and corny with sandals and a fucked up taper.

You ran and got that smh.
The 6'6 290 nigga with the sandals on and the dollar general Bluetooth

Nigga kill bugs with his sandals..

Should be somewhere driving a forklift not walking to the mailbox to check your mail in sandals...

Yall niggas on here man.. I see why you niggas get the hoes you get.


Nigga built like the old 2005 Missy Elliott.

You just want Puff home...sound like a bitch who cant keep a job longer than 4 months
 
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I wish I can cut that out and place that on them sandals you rock

Ignore them shits...

You dont wear sandals to the mall my nigga...at 6'6 290.
Your feet need to be in something with a shoe strings, not straps

6'6 290 ass nigga using straps on sandals...smh.

Nigga chick got on shoes/heels on...he going out with sandals on ..duck ass nigga
 
Can't be like this over Puff guys

He wanted my attention 2 or 3 days ago like he one my lil chicks..and he got mad that I aint respond to him...but ima be the nigga big unc for the remainder of the 2025 year.

Puff made to where some of these dudes need a big unc...cant be 6'6 290 leaving your sandals by the door when you walk into your studio apartment.

I enjoy shitting on niggas his size....he know im telling the truth bout his ass...he giggling over there while in them size 8 sandals
 
Fuck puff and that retarded nigga knock.

I am that..Im throwed off killa. I aint go lie to you killa...

See what I mean...he feel embarrassed now...and it's nothing he can do about it...lol..absolutely nothing but watch where you step next time...

Nigga about to spiral out of bounds cuz niggas now know he walk to his mailbox in size 8 sandals at 6'6 290

I told you boy, Ill make you hate yourself...but i aint go do that..
You just need a big unc and to let you know that niggas dont wear size 8 sandals in the US at 6'6 290
 
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You have the agency to take the stance that W is the biggest number. That doesn't make that stance any less stupid. You can't say that the analogy isn't misunderstood and then continue to double down on something that's besides the point. Again, the analogy was not a direct comparison between gangbangers and abuse victims. For the last time, that's not how analogies work. This is a really dumb hill to die on.

There will always be people who take things too far, but does that mean we should just ignore reality. If it is a fact, that some of these victims made conscious choices to partake in these crazy lives, that should be acknowledged. Period. If people come along and say that victim compliance excuses abuse, they should be corrected and argued against. That's fine.

What states that I must agree with your analogy? Simply because you said it and think it's right? That's a good level of arrogance. Speaking of hills to die on thats not a good one for you to take.

I never once said to ignore reality of someone's individual choices. I just think it serves no purpose to remind someone who is in a fucked up situation "You know how you got here?" As if they aren't already aware of that fact. It's nothing but an ego stroke moment for the person making the comment and has nothing to do with actually helping the abused person. That's why the "hold them accountable" shit is silly in these instances because there's no real way to hold an abused person accountable without contributing to bad treatment. And at the end that helps nobody and only emboldens the abuser to keep going if it's not already at a criminal case point. You're smart enough to know that part of falling victim to an abuser is a level of low self esteem. So do you really think a chorus of "you fucked up" reminders is actually helpful?
 
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