Desegregation: Black Americans Were Bamboozled

[DOS_patos]

1000 dollars probably leave the community before one dollar recirculate

not only is the local soul food spot a Mid chain restaurant made with no love , the chinese spot across the street cheaper and the Cat food better. They get to undercut the competition
And take that money right out to the suburbs and send some home

the whole world looking to you for culture and aesthetics and you spending a billion dollars in a supply store owned by a homely women posted in the middle of the hood

this goes to support.

how we see each other.

supporting a local soul food place and not the chinese would run them out of business.

but the fact they are cheaper and spit in ya drinks and serve our people pets. for some reason thats better. while we get looked at as not cool for not allowing fuck shit and the hook ups.

if we treated each other half as well as we treat those outside our community........only lawd knows.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Oprah was a weapon, takes a keen eye to see how and why.
Music could have made money on a growing chitling circuit and others that may have popped up. as far as president.....ehhh. maybe.

i think we can do and have everything we have now if we supported each other more and looked at outsiders as the enemy or need to earn their place like we must with everyone. we need to have better standards at what we allow into our community and allow to leave our community.

Oprah was just an example. The point is that every community needs its upper class to invest back into the community and help it grow. If our upper class was artificially held back because of segregation then there would be a ceiling on how high our community could go.

Music is a good example. Black musicians have always been successful, because black music has always been loved. Again, because of how shit worked during segregation, those musicians were stifled. If you believe in moguls and people pushing bounds, then why stop at Master P if you can get to Jay-Z especially if those people were more geared to turning around an investing in the community rather than worrying solely about their own wealth.

if the black community stuck together .....Oprahs money would not be needed because the community has all it needs.

Again Oprah is just an example. Every community needs its upper class. It doesn't matter how much unity there is if all the money is taken elsewhere. You think the Jews or Koreans would be where they are if their richest people didn't reach back?

If the emphasis would have been equally allocating the funds and resources from 'the best' establishments into black areas, you would find the answer to your riddle. It was a lateral step vs a step forward in most cases

It's a fight we still having to this day b.

Is Yale being integrated more important than say better funding for public schools?

This argument doesn't make sense to me. Yale being integrated and better funding for public schools are two different issues. You're making it seem like we sacrificed one for the other. The reality is that we didn't have either. Now we've got one and are still struggling to get the other. That's not a lateral step. that's a forward step. It just might not be as big a step as you think we should have had by now.

 

[Chicity]

This argument doesn't make sense to me. Yale being integrated and better funding for public schools are two different issues. You're making it seem like we sacrificed one for the other. The reality is that we didn't have either. Now we've got one and are still struggling to get the other. That's not a lateral step. that's a forward step. It just might not be as big a step as you think we should have had by now.

Go back and read Race last post b. I think she hit the nail on the head very well

 

[Kzzl]

Segregation being good or bad for blacks is one thing, but it definitely was good for white society/white supremacy.
Desegregation allowed a lesser threat to peacefully assimilate and be exploited by a dominant force with a glass ceiling in place.
It incentivized all non-white societies to direct their funds and resources into white society.
Taking the best and brightest to be used in a capacity that ultimately benefitted white society.
Definitely a big brain move by the democrats.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Go back and read Race last post b. I think she hit the nail on the head very well

No it doesn't. She's doing the same thing you guys always do when this topic comes up. She's conflating community abandonment with integration. Integration didn't force many of us to set living in a white neighborhood as a goal. That's just something wrong minded people did as a consequence of integration. It's perfectly possible to go an work a white corporate job while living in and contributing to a black community. Some of us do that very thing.

 

[Chicity]

No it doesn't. She's doing the same thing you guys always do when this topic comes up. She's conflating community abandonment with integration. Integration didn't force many of us to set living in a white neighborhood as a goal. That's just something wrong minded people did as a consequence of integration. It's perfectly possible to go an work a white corporate job while living in and contributing to a black community. Some of us do that very thing.

Ok

 

[DOS_patos]

No it doesn't. She's doing the same thing you guys always do when this topic comes up. She's conflating community abandonment with integration. Integration didn't force many of us to set living in a white neighborhood as a goal. That's just something wrong minded people did as a consequence of integration. It's perfectly possible to go an work a white corporate job while living in and contributing to a black community. Some of us do that very thing.

Wrong minded?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Wrong minded?

Yes, it was wrong minded to think like the Jeffersons and believe that success meant moving to the rich white part of town.

 

[DOS_patos]

Yes, it was wrong minded to think like the Jeffersons and believe that success meant moving to the rich white part of town.

Is this black people thinking they better by moving to the white part? Or is it black people moving away from being targets?

There are also middle class and rich black communities.

Are these people also wrong minded for moving out the poorer areas?

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Black ppl work hard to get shit and have to work even harder to keep that shit

That was the message in the break in scene of Boys in the Hood

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Is this black people thinking they better by moving to the white part? Or is it black people moving away from being targets?

There are also middle class and rich black communities.

Are these people also wrong minded for moving out the poorer areas?

I'm specifically talking about black people moving to white neighborhoods for status reasons.

I'm glad you asked that question because that's another point that needs clarification. Black people living in traditionally white neighborhoods isn't always about abandoning communities. A lot of it happened because blacks moved to different areas of the country chasing opportunities and there wasn't always enough black people in a particular area to have a black community there.

 

[DOS_patos]

Black ppl work hard to get shit and have to work even harder to keep that shit

This shit always irritated me.

You have people who subscribed to the ...If you can't hold it, don't get it.

Seems for some the more you get....The more people you must fight to keep it.

All while other groups dont do the same

 

[Dwayne]

This shit always irritated me.

You have people who subscribed to the ...If you can't hold it, don't get it.

Seems for some the more you get....The more people you must fight to keep it.

All while other groups dont do the same

Lies

 

[BDP™️]

so you think we in the same exact position we was in 70 years ago?

yes we just have more nice things

but on the socio-economic ladder we are still at the bottom collectively

 

[Dwayne]

yes we just have more nice things

but on the socio-economic latter we are still at the bottom collectively

Me taking to folks that lived through that shit disagree 1000%.

But some view it different


Y’all got it.

 

[BDP™️]

Its just the presumption that whitness = better is my problem.

YES YES YES YES.

There is this mentality that still permeates our community that the white man ice is colder

 

[DOS_patos]

YES YES YES YES.

There is this mentality that still permeates our community that the white man ice is colder

As with articulating your words

 

[Race Jones]

No it doesn't. She's doing the same thing you guys always do when this topic comes up. She's conflating community abandonment with integration. Integration didn't force many of us to set living in a white neighborhood as a goal. That's just something wrong minded people did as a consequence of integration. It's perfectly possible to go an work a white corporate job while living in and contributing to a black community. Some of us do that very thing.

youre not even Black so stfu

 

[Race Jones]

No it doesn't. She's doing the same thing you guys always do when this topic comes up. She's conflating community abandonment with integration. Integration didn't force many of us to set living in a white neighborhood as a goal. That's just something wrong minded people did as a consequence of integration. It's perfectly possible to go an work a white corporate job while living in and contributing to a black community. Some of us do that very thing.

community abandonment was/is a compotent of integration on both sides of the spectrum

 

[BDP™️]

Me taking to folks that lived through that shit disagree 1000%.

But some view it different


Y’all got it.

all the numbers say otherwise

we have more nice things percentage wise (more access, more people educated, more employment, more earning potential) but we still are at or near the bottom in all of those things...just as we were then

many of the sadistic physical horrors have been replaced by the more subtle legislative and psychological barriers

our status in this country has been and will continue to be reiterated

perfect example

we are protesting for cops to stop killing us look at the response and the overwhelming force that was used to quell it

a bunch of crackers just stormed the Capitol Building with help from the police...in addition to only one round being discharged, no tear gas, rubber bullets, nightsticks, etc. America is plainly showing you where we stand bro