Dallas Officer Amber Guyger's trial for the murder of Botham Shem Jean begins (FOUND GUILTY)

[Dwayne]

“ if any other race was treated the way America has treated blacks, this country would have burned down by now”

Acutally thats not true.

It should be though

 

[Victory_Kid]

You might want to throw in the Indian brother and sisters in your post. They lost a whole country

That's true still.
They lost Canada too, smh.

 

[Dwayne]

That's true still.
They lost Canada too, smh.

Them natives from Canada to the tip of Chile lost everything.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Saddum was not dead (who they thought did it) Didn't these same white folks want to kill this man without any proof??

That's a different conversation. The people who took us to war against Iraq were themselves criminals. That wasn't really about forgiveness. That was them telling a lie and then committing to that lie.

You can't see how being "nice" and "forgiving" in public will continue to allow black folks to be slaughter out here.

White folks don't give 2 shits about your forgiveness, it's brings relief to THEIR minds/conscious and allows them to continue to walk, breath, eat, and do shit to us when we holler about forgiving them. If you want to forgive them, talk to your GOD in prayer about it and go along, They don't need to know the shit. That's the trick that they play on black folks.

White folks think shit is a joke, you know history, so you should know that these demons look at shit, especially when it's done to black folks, as a joke. Shit is never ever serious to them or with them

You can't be forgiving folks when they look at their actions as jokes, playful, light-hearted, oh it was just an accident, oops, I really didn't mean to kill, etc, that means that they don't value black folks or any human kind lives. Look at how they treat nature. Treat it like a sport, joking manner.

You know history you say, you seen photo graphs of white folks smiling, and in the background, there's a black man with his gentials cut off being hung from a tree,
Just imagine that if that was your son, you sitting up here telling this forum that you will forgive those white folks that's smiling in the photo who hung and cut off your son's gentials. Breh you're mentally ill if you state that you would forgive this act out in public and start hugging these white folks, within a year's time

Shit is a joke to them, so why are you and others in here trying to not understand why forgiving these folks in public is dangerous for the rest of us?

If I kill your mama, and you forgive me, I'ma be relieved from the act that I committed against your mama and I can kill again if I wanted to because, you will just forgive me and hug on me,

Nope, I don't. The white people that don't give 2 shits about our forgiveness also don't give two shits about our grudges. The cops that are out here killing niggas will do that with this kid hugging that chick, and they would have continued to do that if he sat in the courtroom mean mugging her. There is literally no difference there.

I understand your animosity towards white people, which is why I don't fault you or anyone else for not wanting to hug and forgive. However, you guys are calling this kid a coon and race traitor. If you're going to put those kinds of insults on him, you really should have some tangible examples of how his actions have or will hurt the black community.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Ok, since ppl wanna play like they don't understand, let me put it this way

Forgiveness is the only thing keeping black ppl from going Nat Turner on whites in this country.

They know it which is why they preach forgiveness so much.

The shit was driven into us overtime and we cant seem to realize that is an irrational response to violence and oppression.

If someone does something so as cold hearted as this to you, you have every right to retliate. Thats not being "evil like them". The forgiveness shit makes us feel like we are taking some spiritual high road, when in reality, we are enabling the shit to continue with that behavior. Yall can't be that blind where you don't see the obvious parade going

How do you forgive ppl who keep doing the same shit knowing thet will do it again? Thats some battered wife stuff.

lol Hold on, so you think the only thing stopping black people from rising up and killing a bunch of white people in an effort to throw off white supremacist oppression is forgiveness.

It's not the fact that blacks only make up 13% of the country and as a result are at a severe numbers disadvantage. Or the fact that whites by and large control almost all the money, power, and resources in this country. Or that they have all the weapons and could pretty much wipe us all out at moment's notice. Or that black people can't stop killing each other long enough to actually kill a white person. None of that is preventing us from launching a violent revolt huh? It's forgiveness. lol Ok

And no, I'm not really saying the just retaliation is being evil. I'm saying that your ideas of how you should respond to a situation are seemingly developed based on how people you consider to be evil would respond, then yes you are being evil. There is a difference between not doing something because you believe it's bad for you and not doing something because your enemy doesn't do it either. Pretty much all of you are making arguments based on that second idea.

 

[The Mad Titan]

lol Hold on, so you think the only thing stopping black people from rising up and killing a bunch of white people in an effort to throw off white supremacist oppression is forgiveness.

It's not the fact that blacks only make up 13% of the country and as a result are at a severe numbers disadvantage. Or the fact that whites by and large control almost all the money, power, and resources in this country. Or that they have all the weapons and could pretty much wipe us all out at moment's notice. Or that black people can't stop killing each other long enough to actually kill a white person. None of that is preventing us from launching a violent revolt huh? It's forgiveness. lol Ok

And no, I'm not really saying the just retaliation is being evil. I'm saying that your ideas of how you should respond to a situation are seemingly developed based on how people you consider to be evil would respond, then yes you are being evil. There is a difference between not doing something because you believe it's bad for you and not doing something because your enemy doesn't do it either. Pretty much all of you are making arguments based on that second idea.

Thats absolutely it. And understand Im talking forgivness in this specific context its being used here. To keep black ppl in line. Regardless of numbers, finances and resources. It creates the mindset of
complaceny and mainly fear. Take that away, and shit will happen. Them ppl in the middle east be throwing rocks and bottle at tanks. We just scared.

You think our enslaved ancestors who rose up was sitting there babbling about "oh massa got guns and stuff". No they took whatever resources they could muster and fought. And they damn well most would die, but they had dignity and refused to live a subservent life. The scary forgiving negroes stayed on the plantation and ratted. Some even helped bring back runaways.

They also did it for us to have a future. Yet here we are wasting our forgivness on an enemy who hates us. Thats asanine. Not forgiving is not an evil act in response to hate and violence.

 

[DOS_patos]

has anyone forgave OJ yet?

is it even proof he 100% did it?

 

[DOS_patos]

so i wont be forgiven i dont forgive?
i can be punished internally for not forgiving a killer of my family?
i can be punished internally for not forgiving the people who oppress me at will.

the fact that we can do better and think better now and we choose not to....make us worse that the slaves who knew little and were taught nothing because it was illegal to learn.

this isnt even setting us back. this is make our ancestors look at us like ....stand up for yourself

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Thats absolutely it. And understand Im talking forgivness in this specific context its being used here. To keep black ppl in line. Regardless of numbers, finances and resources. It creates the mindset of
complaceny and mainly fear. Take that away, and shit will happen. Them ppl in the middle east be throwing rocks and bottle at tanks. We just scared.

You think our enslaved ancestors who rose up was sitting there babbling about "oh massa got guns and stuff". No they took whatever resources they could muster and fought. And they damn well most would die, but they had dignity and refused to live a subservent life. The scary forgiving negroes stayed on the plantation and ratted. Some even helped bring back runaways.

They also did it for us to have a future. Yet here we are wasting our forgivness on an enemy who hates us. Thats asanine. Not forgiving is not an evil act in response to hate and violence.

We're not in the same situation as the Palestinians or the slaves in America's past, so it doesn't make sense to act like we should be using the same strategy. Did our ancestors let the fact that the masters have guns prevent them from rising up? Of course they did. At one point there were more black people in the South than there were white people? Why is it do you think that they didn't successfully overthrow white people at the time? Why do you think people like Nat Turner and Denmark Vesey failed? They were outgunned. That's the same reason the Native Americans lost. They had nothing that to beat the gatling gun, so even their numbers advantage and superior knowledge of the land failed them. So stop with the revisionist history. The slaves were afraid to fight back and that doesn't just apply to the race traitors.

Also, it's a bit ridiculous to even compare the mindset of slaves to modern blacks. You're talking about the mindset of someone force to work 12+ hours everyday who has no right and can't even keep their own family to a person who may very well have a job, a house, some money, a family, and some prospects of future success with some attached baggage and uncertainty caused by the white supremacist institution. It would be foolish to expect that person in the second situation to be as readily willing to turn to extreme measures as the person in the first situation.

 

[BlackRain]

Has any white person forgave a black person,, let alone anybody for their transgressions? Whites don't even forgive other white ppl.

Did they forgive Sadam Hussain for crashing those planes on 9/11?? (did he do it) Or did they go on a man hunt to kill the man and his kids?? What about the man in Liberia? smh.

Miss me and your kind with that forgiveness wave. I will start forgiving when your kind starts

Black ppl been on that wave,

White people forgive bullshit all the time. Yall really in here elevating white folks and shitting on black people thinking it's accomplished something. If your fear is that white folks will see this instance and somehow think now, after the past 5 centuries already doing this, they have a green light to be racist then not only are you misguided about history you're just dumb.

 

[BlackRain]

You're very conditioned. What you saw go down in that courtroom is unprecedented behavior but youre pretending its the norm. There was NO justice served, only sympathy for a cold hearted white supremacist murderer. When have white even been forgiving? Why is the onus on the black victim to forgive? why are the headlines more focused on the forgiveness then the short sentence? If you don't see anything wrong with that kangaroo court it means you're complicit with injustice

Justice was not served. Real time was not given. Hugs were given. There were no consequences. Where is the DETERRENT for racist cops and civilians to not kill black people???

Unprecedented? So never has a bullshit sentence been given? Never has a judge and their bias beem questioned? Victim impact statements being read that talk about forgiving the person convicted? None of that has ever happened before? The way yall talking this is the 1st time ever

 

[BlackRain]

Imagine this

Guilty verdict

26 year sentence

The family comes out and condemns the Dallas PD and white supremacy as a whole

Forgiveness is never mentioned

Is that so fucking far fetched? Black people: the judge, jurors and victims had the POWER to make all of the above happen

And of those people listed who exactly had the power to actually enact punishment towards the cop? Not the family...but people going at them and not the judgr and just cuz they scared

 

[Disanthrope]

Crackhead character witness and a black chick who sounds like she has a 5th grade reading level on the jury.

These pink folks some dirty mfs

They stacked the deck in reverse.. instead of an obvious all white judge and jury they chose thoroughly screened negroes to be as lenient as possible with this white bitch

 

[Dwayne]

The majority black jury did this

 

[Disanthrope]

Unprecedented? So never has a bullshit sentence been given? Never has a judge and their bias beem questioned? Victim impact statements being read that talk about forgiving the person convicted? None of that has ever happened before? The way yall talking this is the 1st time ever

Lol... bro. This entire post is you proving you're CONDITIONED. Youre telling me that's the way things have been and that's the way things are as if that's the way they should be.

UNPRECEDENTED courtroom behaviour cannot be rationalized

 

[SKPJR]

Y'all can listen to these hypocrite ass crackas and their sambo ass Christian nigga slaves if you want. But trust and believe white folks don't forget and they damn sure don't forgive.

 

[BlackRain]

Lol... bro. This entire post is you proving you're CONDITIONED. Youre telling me that's the way things have been and that's the way things are as if that's the way they should be.

UNPRECEDENTED courtroom behaviour cannot be rationalized

No that is not what I'm saying. What are you Dos Jr making up shit for your own points. I've repeatedly said whether or not that family forgave that woman won't have shit to do with stopping or starting a white person who ws already emboldened enough to view black lives as less than. Thats what yall aren't getting. The people who feel this way will continue to regardless if you forgive them or not. Not forving them won't instill some fear in white folks. Especially if it's not followed by any tangible actions behind it.

 

[SeaSnake]

Look into that again. He was a Roman Catholic. Never became a Rasta.

People act like Rastafarian don’t have a Christian origin. But I do think Ethiopian Christianity is different

 

[The Mad Titan]

We're not in the same situation as the Palestinians or the slaves in America's past, so it doesn't make sense to act like we should be using the same strategy. Did our ancestors let the fact that the masters have guns prevent them from rising up? Of course they did. At one point there were more black people in the South than there were white people? Why is it do you think that they didn't successfully overthrow white people at the time? Why do you think people like Nat Turner and Denmark Vesey failed? They were outgunned. That's the same reason the Native Americans lost. They had nothing that to beat the gatling gun, so even their numbers advantage and superior knowledge of the land failed them. So stop with the revisionist history. The slaves were afraid to fight back and that doesn't just apply to the race traitors.

Also, it's a bit ridiculous to even compare the mindset of slaves to modern blacks. You're talking about the mindset of someone force to work 12+ hours everyday who has no right and can't even keep their own family to a person who may very well have a job, a house, some money, a family, and some prospects of future success with some attached baggage and uncertainty caused by the white supremacist institution. It would be foolish to expect that person in the second situation to be as readily willing to turn to extreme measures as the person in the first situation.

You ignoring the point on purpose. At some point you either have the courage to stand up for yourself despit the odds or bow down. Many of our anscestors chose to stand up and fight.

I dont call Nat and Denmarks rebellions failures. Thats an insult to them giving their lives. They chose to face death rather than live like subhumans. Thats courage in its rawest form.

And it aint ridiculous at all to compare the mindset of slaves to modern blacks when there has been little change in that mindset.

Brother Malcom discussed the comparison you described in his house/field negro speech.

 

[Reem]

White people forgive bullshit all the time. Yall really in here elevating white folks and shitting on black people thinking it's accomplished something. If your fear is that white folks will see this instance and somehow think now, after the past 5 centuries already doing this, they have a green light to be racist then not only are you misguided about history you're just dumb.

You're conditioned bro.

Just like I asked one poster to post a video of white folks forgiving OJ and 9/11, and he couldn't do it, I doubt that you would be able to do the same.

You're just talking with emotions, what has anybody stated that has white folks in an elevation state? What do you mean by ppl are elevating white folks? If Anything, folks are shitting on white folks and calling them all types of devils and racist and etc.