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Dallas Officer Amber Guyger's trial for the murder of Botham Shem Jean begins (FOUND GUILTY)

Kzzl said:
Understand what you just typed, "actually fought for us and got us rights"
So that means that "bluster" is why you're not on a plantation anymore.

But what have these hugging and forgiving black Christians ever accomplished?
Besides also getting black folks beaten and killed.
There is one big difference with the hugging and forgiving negroe.
They are the ones that get praise, payments, and opportunities from the white supremacist at the cost of black injustice.

You can't love and forgive the racism away.
Denouncing that behavior shouldn't mean you're any less religious.
But if it does, that religion is likely something you need to drop as it is doing you a disservice.

What we have here looks more like the victim's family members are using religion as an excuse.
It wouldn't be far fetched they were also paid off to do so at this point.

But any black person with a once of sense, regardless of religion, should be able to see how ridiculous the family's response has been.
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How does being forgiving mean you can't be against racism? I could see if he hugged her and forgave her before the verdict and then said it didn't really matter to him if she was convicted or not. You'd have a point then. That's not what happened though. The family fought for justice, and once they believe they got it, some of them have forgiven the chick. How does that hurt anyone?

I don't really disagree with what you're saying specifically, but you seem to be implying that you can't seek justice and also be forgiving. That's not true at all. You're right. You can't love and forgive racism away. You also can't hate and grudge it away. Racism is born from ignorance and the only things that will end it are education for those that are willing to learn and death for those that aren't. So no, I don't believe this dude hugging that chick is going to suddenly turn a lot of racists away from their ways, but it's also not going to make racism any worse or more prevalent. So, that being the case, if forgiving that chick can help the family close the door on this and move on, why is it such a bad thing you all?
 
BlackRain said:
@IC_Refugee If you've read my posts I said the judge should get no defense neither should the cop...so your entire post is moot because I already deaded that argument.
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Not moot. Same applies to the brother. Its coonery across the board. There could have been a precedent set in that there texas courtroom. 26 years (Botham's age) in prison and no outwardly bias sympathy for the unsympathetic murderer sounds reasonable to me. There could have been an actual deterrent for racist cops to not murder black people instead of a hug fest and a continued green light to shoot. If you're ok with the brother's actions you're a part of the problem with injustice in America
 
The Lonious Monk said:
How does being forgiving mean you can't be against racism? I could see if he hugged her and forgave her before the verdict and then said it didn't really matter to him if she was convicted or not. You'd have a point then. That's not what happened though. The family fought for justice, and once they believe they got it, some of them have forgiven the chick. How does that hurt anyone?

I don't really disagree with what you're saying specifically, but you seem to be implying that you can't seek justice and also be forgiving. That's not true at all. You're right. You can't love and forgive racism away. You also can't hate and grudge it away. Racism is born from ignorance and the only things that will end it are education for those that are willing to learn and death for those that aren't. So no, I don't believe this dude hugging that chick is going to suddenly turn a lot of racists away from their ways, but it's also not going to make racism any worse or more prevalent. So, that being the case, if forgiving that chick can help the family close the door on this and move on, why is it such a bad thing you all?
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Yall need to understand its bigger than the brother

This is about black people collectively

Amber Guyger is a white supremacist

Her brother flashed the white power sign in a pic

She's the sidechick to a married cop who also has killed a black man in texas. That is who had all her attention that night

Black people forgiving these types is dangerous and counterproductive
 
IC_Refugee said:
Yall need to understand its bigger than the brother

This is about black people collectively

Amber Guyger is a white supremacist

Her brother flashed the white power sign in a pic

She's the sidechick to a married cop who also has killed a black man in texas. That is who had all her attention that night

Black people forgiving these types is dangerous and counterproductive
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This dude lost his brother and is likely just trying to find a way to cope. I'm not about to sit behind a computer screen and bash him for how he's going about that. It's not really as deep as you're trying to make it. Amber is a piece of shit, her brother is a piece of shit, and her partner is a piece of shit. They aren't alone. There are tons more like them in this country. What Jean's brother did won't do anything one way or another to change those people. At most, it might give the family some peace of mind and let them move on. That's it. The only reason any of this is a big deal is because you guys are making it a big deal. And I swear people love talking about fighting racism, but you guys throw a lot more stones at black pepole than you do at the actual white racists. I mean the outrage at this man hugging the killer almost matches what was raised in response to the actual killing. If you don't see how ridiculous that is, I don't know what to tell you.

5th Letter said:
Forgive behind closed doors and be about justice in public.
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Best post in this topic to be honest.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
The Bible was originally written in Aramaic and Hebrew and then translated into Greek. Aramaic and Hebrew are Semitic languages which are considered Afro-Asiatic languages. Neither are European in origin. And who said anything about blacks creating the Bible. You literally made up a point to argue against.
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That sir is incorrect the bible was written in Greek first and you need to research. With that said the bible and faith was European and all you have to do is look it up. When you find it let me know and yes I do know the answer.

I mentioned Blacks never created the bible shows you. That one it not our religion and 2 it was used against us to make us forgiven like other posters has stated
 
Olorun22 said:
That sir is incorrect the bible was written in Greek first and you need to research. With that said the bible and faith was European and all you have to do is look it up. When you find it let me know and yes I do know the answer.

I mentioned Blacks never created the bible shows you. That one it not our religion and 2 it was used against us to make us forgiven like other posters has stated
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The first translation from Hebrew was.

Not the first biblical texts.
 
Olorun22 said:
That sir is incorrect the bible was written in Greek first and you need to research. With that said the bible and faith was European and all you have to do is look it up. When you find it let me know and yes I do know the answer.

I mentioned Blacks never created the bible shows you. That one it not our religion and 2 it was used against us to make us forgiven like other posters has stated
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That only applies to the New Testament. The bulk of the Bible is the Old Testament, and it was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic. Now if you want to make the argument that Christianity is defined more by the New Testatment so that's what matters. That's only kinda true given that the New Testament is fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy, so the Old Testament is still important. Anyway, the New Testament was written Greek because that was the language of scholarship at the time, so even the non-European scholars that were under Roman rule wrote in Greek. Claiming that the Bible is a work of white people just because it was written in a European language would be like saying the works of Langston Hughes or Maya Angelou were created by whites because they are written in English. That makes no sense. The original Christians were not European. That's not even debatable. Again, a significant part of the New Testament involves the spreading of the faith to Europe, so it makes no sense for you to say that it was originally European.

It's fair to say that Christianity was never the religion of the West Africans that most of us in America descended from. It's also fair to point out that white weaponized Christianity and used it against blacks. Those points are irrelevant now though because blacks choose whether or not they want to be Christians. Some choose to believe, and others like those arguing here choose not to believe. No one is making that choice based on the dirty tricks pulled by whites hundreds of years ago.
 
Olorun22 said:
Bro, I'm well aware of the Septuagint and you have to ask yourself. How can they say something is translated from something without proof. There is no manuscript that's older than the Septuagint so the bible is written in Greek duh
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You asked for proof. I posted it showing that the Septuagint origniates from the Hebrew.

There's also the Masoretic texts, and more importantly, the Dead Sea Scrolls.

What are you arguing at this point?
 
JUDAH said:
You asked for proof. I posted it showing that the Septuagint origniates from the Hebrew.

There's also the Masoretic texts, and more importantly, the Dead Sea Scrolls.

What are you arguing at this point?
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I don't think you understand where I was coming from.

How can you say the Septuagint is translated from Hebrew without a manuscript? It's a lie bro

The dea sea scrolls does outdated the Septuagint but you can even see the words on that bitch. Its hell of old
 
BRIAN B. said:
Look

this could set a dangerous precedent


yall really want dude to be the poster boy for how we should treat racist murderers?
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Fucked up but he already is the poster boy. The same as those folks in Charleston after Dylan Roof.

It's why I ain't mad or don't care. I love when folks show me exactly who they are. That allows me to treat them accordingly no matter what race they are.
 
IC_Refugee said:
Not moot. Same applies to the brother. Its coonery across the board. There could have been a precedent set in that there texas courtroom. 26 years (Botham's age) in prison and no outwardly bias sympathy for the unsympathetic murderer sounds reasonable to me. There could have been an actual deterrent for racist cops to not murder black people instead of a hug fest and a continued green light to shoot. If you're ok with the brother's actions you're a part of the problem with injustice in America
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Again...i never said I agree with the brothers actions. I clearly stated i don't. So yeah your entire point is moot because you're arguing something i explicitly stated i don't agree with. I just don't think the family should be the target of this anger cuz it's not as if they chose the sentence. You're talking about shit the brother had no control over. The brother chose the sentence or did the jury? Did the family tell the judge to hug her? Endorse her like the police union did that got her elected? Deterrent? Since when has this shit been a detrrent? Niggas been getting killed by police since forever and no punishment has changed that shit yet. I get being mad but niggas so mad your anger is misdirected. Direct it towards the actual system and people in place that allow for sentences like this to even be on the table. Because if you think calling that brother and his family all sorts of names proves a point you are very misguided. The family is the easy target...take on the actual issue which also just revictimized the family. That's the actual hard battle but niggas dont wanna do actual work. Just posture online as if you actual want to.
 
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