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Dallas Officer Amber Guyger's trial for the murder of Botham Shem Jean begins (FOUND GUILTY)

Kzzl said:
Being forgiving has proven ineffective against racism. It does not solve the problem.
It's also what racist promote the most black to people, because they know how nonthreatening it is to white supremacy.
Also, as I've stated, forgiveness in the case of many black people (not all) is an excuse to not deal with the problem of injustice done to them.
It explains away the wrong done to them as something divinely out of there hands to just suffer through.

What's even worst is that those same black people will be hypocrites if crossed by another black person.
If someone owes them money, if their lover cheats on them, if someone hurts their feelings, forgiveness wouldn't be on the table.
But the moment it's white supremacy doing them wrong, they want to bring their bible out.

That family is horribly mistaken if they think they got justice.
Black people are in prison for far longer for doing far less than Amber.
This type of behavior further perpetuates the power of a corrupt system and the lack of value for black lives in our country.
They are fools, or complicit, for not realizing it.
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I agree with what you're saying based on the mindsets you're speaking to. However, I don't think most people preaching forgiveness do so because they believe it alone can solve racism or because they think it excuses them from the fight. To me, that seems to be something you made up. I don't doubt there are people that fit into both camps, but I doubt it's a representative sample.

Anyway, I don't think you and I are at odds. I'm ok with people being forgiving even in circumstances like this. However, like you said, this guy's action isn't going to change the world, and in general people have to understand forgiveness isn't enough. You can be forgiving, but you still have to fight for justice.

As for whether or not the family got justice, I don't know to be honest. I think it all depends on if you really believe the chick's story that she was drunk and walked into the house on accident. If they really bought that it was all a mistake, then 10 years seems fair. If you don't believe that, which I don't, then 10 years is too light. Maybe if she got a mandatory 10 years that would be better since we all know she's not going to serve that number now.
 
DMorgan said:
Fucked up but he already is the poster boy. The same as those folks in Charleston after Dylan Roof.

It's why I ain't mad or don't care. I love when folks show me exactly who they are. That allows me to treat them accordingly no matter what race they are.
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but that image of him physically embracin a racist murderer will prolly come back to haunt him
 
LurkerSix said:
wow @ some of this, smh. Makes me think, a while back i was listening to an episode of the ZoWhatShow on youtube(i forget which 1), and they touched on this subject. He said black people go this whole forgiveness route when they're victims, to make themselves feel better because, it lets them the illusion they have some sorta say or control over a situation, where they have neither. And i have to agree with what he said.
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they be spittin real shit on that show
 
BRIAN B. said:
True


but that image of him physically embracin a racist murderer will prolly come back to haunt him
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It already is. I say that because of reaction he is probably getting from people who he loves and respects. I'm sure he even has some brothers and sisters in christ who are giving him an ear full over that hugging and don't even want her to go to jail shit.

On top of having a large section of black people who are 100% against what he did and said.

No matter how much a person goes against the grain and feel they're right it bothers them when the bulk of the people from their race are against them.

Candace Owens can do all the bed wenching she wants and talk all that shit about black people she wants. Deep down it bothers her that her own people ain't fucking with her because all black people like her know that they will never be fully accepted by white people no matter what they say or do against black people. Folks like them in no mans land not accepted by your own and not accepted by the other cause you ain't them.
 
Thor said:
Yup. I sure though.

The weak always get the attention exploited though.
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Is the more truthful way to see it.
 
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