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Dallas Officer Amber Guyger's trial for the murder of Botham Shem Jean begins (FOUND GUILTY)

No spins no lies. You're way too passionate about what the police told you. Disgraceful complicity by you. That's sad. A black man eager to believe the fucking police's word and vilifying black people who don't

Again, no ownership of the lie you volunteered. It's easier for you to accuse me of being "passionate about what the police told" me and basically call me a race traitor than it is to admit you told a lie to further your argument. But I'm the sad one?

Why did you say that Joshua Brown left Texas because of fear of the police? Can you answer that simple question?
 
Again, no ownership of the lie you volunteered. It's easier for you to accuse me of being "passionate about what the police told" me and basically call me a race traitor than it is to admit you told a lie to further your argument. But I'm the sad one?

Why did you say that Joshua Brown left Texas because of fear of the police? Can you answer that simple question?
I didn't say that.

I said he received death threats and i put "from dallas pd" in parentheses to distinguish my opinion.

Fact: he received death threats
Opinion: from the Dallas police
 
I didn't say that.

I said he received death threats and i put "from dallas pd" in parentheses to distinguish my opinion.

Fact: he received death threats
Opinion: from the Dallas police


What was the reason for his concern?
He was receiving death threats (from Dallas pd)


Since when do parenthesis distinguish an opinion from the statement made before, if not stated as such in the parenthesis? This is your greatest spin of all. Why has it taken this many responses to come with the "parenthesis distinguished my opinion" excuse?

This has gotten hilarious at this point. Your answer to my question was incorrect at best, a lie at worst. I started off by saying you misrepresented his reason but after you doubled and tripled down, I moved on to you telling a purposeful lie.
 
You're way too passionate. You're going above and beyond to Cape for racist police. I bet you call them "sir" or "maam" when you get pulled over. Be real..

Back to this after lying about not telling the lie in the first place didn't work. Truly sad. Why'd you quote this post and not the one above it?
 
You're way too passionate. You're going above and beyond to Cape for racist police. I bet you call them "sir" or "maam" when you get pulled over. Be real..

It seems odd that you're saying that he's way too passionate when from the outside looking in it's pretty clear that you are ignoring a lot of facts that have come out because you're too attached to your idea of what you want it to be regardless of the clear lack of any supporting evidence.

If you want to be objective you have to let the facts form your conclusions not the other way around.

in short... you want it to be one way, but it's the other way.
 
Some of yall want the police to be right so bad. At this point you're not arguing your beliefs, you are almost cheerleading for that to be the outcome. Hoping. And that's disgusting. Some of yall WANT it to be black on black crime
 
Some of yall want the police to be right so bad. At this point you're not arguing your beliefs, you are almost cheerleading for that to be the outcome. Hoping. And that's disgusting. Some of yall WANT it to be black on black crime
It was a drug deal gone wrong. Remember they found weed in Botham Jean’s apartment.
 
It seems odd that you're saying that he's way too passionate when from the outside looking in it's pretty clear that you are ignoring a lot of facts that have come out because you're too attached to your idea of what you want it to be regardless of the clear lack of any supporting evidence.

If you want to be objective you have to let the facts form your conclusions not the other way around.

in short... you want it to be one way, but it's the other way.

I wasn't even going to point out the irony of him accusing me of being too passionate while he was the one who went as far as to lie to try to prove his point. You can't make this isht up.
 
We so gullible it's sad.

Dudes from LA wanted to score 12 lbs of weed a few days after the verdict guilty was announced?? Think about it. And a key witness wanted to flip 12 lbs of weed after being on a public case as this one? Knowing that he would be watched throughout this trial, but yet he taking orders? smh
I'ma take a ride up to Dallas and score some weed from a nigga that's a key witness to a public ass trial that involved cops?

Yall can eat that story up all yall want, I'm not. Mama aint raise no dummy. I bet some of yall believed that crack head mammy who was on the stand talking about how good that white bitch was too


 
So every nigga who scores weed don't watch the news or don't know about connected their plug is??

The plug has been on TV working with the police, and you expect me to believe niggas, street niggas as you state, are coping weed from niggas that's on a big stage trial like this??

So nobody, knew that this nigga was a witness and was working with the cops, feds, on this trial?? None of these niggas or the niggas in the circle knew this nigga was on stand, crying??

Street niggas, as you say, know more about niggas then cops do


 
I'm not sure what time dude got murdered, haven't looked it up, but how many drug dealers do yall know that will hit lick like that late at night?? let alone selling 12lbs to some strangers that late, near his house, by himself smh..


I just don't buy this story at all


Lol dawg they werent strangers

What da fuck u want hin to take 12pounds to kmart parking lot?

Ow yeah he wasnt alone he had a fuckn gun on him...the same one on his instagram from last year
 

Pitts: The thing about forgiveness


Here’s the thing about forgiveness.

It’s not just something you extend to someone else. It’s also a gift you give yourself, permission to lay down the heavy burden of grudges and rage. And if you’re a Christian, it’s an obligation — albeit a hard one — of faith.

One can believe all that, yet still be deeply conflicted by last week’s act of forgiveness in a Dallas courtroom: Brandt Jean, who is black, embraced and absolved Amber Guyger, the white former police officer who had just been sentenced to 10 years for killing his brother, Botham. Guyger had entered Botham’s apartment mistakenly believing it was hers.

While some people considered these acts of grace, others, many of them African American, were furious. Actress Yvette Nicole Brown retweeted a meme that said: “If somebody ever kills me, don’t you dare hug them. … Throw a chair, in my honor.” To which Brown added: “… and then dig me up and throw ME!” Others were angered that Guyger got “only” 10 years.

The view from this pew is that none of us has the right to tell Brandt Jean how to grieve his brother or process the hell he’s living through. As to Guyger’s sentence: It actually seems fair for a crime that was ultimately a tragic mistake, albeit one exacerbated by poor judgment.

What makes it seem unfair is that we’ve too often seen black defendants receive far harsher sentences for far lesser crimes. Like Marissa Alexander who, in 2012, fired a warning shot as her reputedly abusive husband advanced on her. She got 20 years for shooting a ceiling.

But if these issues are relatively clear cut, the larger one — forgiveness — is anything but. Especially since it sometimes seems that black people — not coincidentally the most religiously faithful group in America, according to a 2014 Pew survey — are forgiving to a fault.

A white supremacist massacres nine people in their church. Family members forgive him. A white cop shoots a fleeing black man in the back. The victim’s mother forgives him. In 1963, white terrorists killed Sarah Collins Rudolph’s sister Addie Mae Collins and three other girls in a bombing at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. Rudolph forgave them. And so it goes.

Forgiveness, you understand, is not the problem. But one-way forgiveness is. Because who forgives black people? Forget forgiveness for wrongdoing. How about forgiveness for simply existing and trying to live unmolested lives? This is what Botham Jean was doing — eating ice cream in his own home — when he was killed by a white woman who blundered upon that prosaic scene and perceived a threat.

In dying that way, Jean indicted cherished American myths about equality and unalienable rights. America — much of white America, at least — hates when you do that. One is reminded of what Hilde Walter, a Jewish journalist, was quoted as saying in 1968: ”It seems the Germans will never forgive us Auschwitz.” Similarly, it sometimes seems much of white America will never forgive us slavery. Or Jim Crow.

By simply existing, black people remind white people of those sins of their forebears, sins many are desperate to minimize or forget. Because down that path lies white guilt. That’s why, when a black man enjoying the comfort of his own home is judged an intruder and executed by a white cop, one is less shocked to see her receive forgiveness than to see her receive punishment.

For the record, Joshua Brown, a young black man who testified against Guyger, was ambushed days later and shot dead. The obvious motive is being speculated. It seems, somehow, a fitting coda to Brandt Jean’s act of generosity, the good deed refusing to go unpunished. It’s a reminder that our racial history is shaped by co-equal forces:

We live by uncanny grace. And sins unatoned.
 
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