Better Movie: Captain America First Avenger vs Wonder Woman

[Duwop]

I know this is shocking for you DC fans, but that what Marvel PLANNED to do.

Plus you also forgot the first 2 GOTG, the first 2 Ant-Man, Ironman 1, and Black Panther. 6 hit movies that didn't have all the "clutter". 8 if you include Ironman 2 & 3.

I never said it wasn't a plan. It was a good plan. It's what works. An all those movies work best because of the ways they worked them together.

They introduced bp in a different movie. They teased Ant-Man and hulk in Coke commercials, they dropped numerous remindrsr and references throughout the gotg movies that it's a shared universe and it all will come together....
You're essentially n proving my point for me. Marvel worksn best when they work together and that's their whole plan.

I agree.

The argument is first avenger. And it was mostly a stand alone prequel and orgin story.

The best part was the end reveal with Sam Jackson connecting it to iron Man... Tell me it wasn't....


Marvel works best together......

DC when they can tell a whole story...

The best part of first avenger v was the end when they connected it.....

The best part of wonder woman was the no man's land which was in the middle an they built to it telling a very strong wonder woman story....

Wonder woman was the better movie

 

[Duwop]

You forgot to mention Dr. Strange.

Which was about as good as bvs...

 

[Duwop]

Joker might be crack story wise, cuz it's has jack shit to do w/ the DCEU

I agree.

DC is at its best when they tell full stories and not concentrate on crossover appeal.

But they still have pressure to compete with what marvel did.

I honestly think marvel will eventually fall flat trying to link everything together. 10 years is an amazing run. And Stan Lee just passed.

I think it's clear that Marvels miraculous run ended with him. DC seems to be getting the hang of what theyre doing and they bout to kill it...

It's clear they know what they doingb on every other medium.

I mean the crossover for arrow has the anticipation of a major film.

At the end of the day my original point stands. DC is story based. They tell better stories. Wonder woman was the better story and better movie than first avenger

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

You're essentially n proving my point for me. Marvel worksn best when they work together and that's their whole plan.

How?

Your whole point was that the standalone movies wasn't as good as the team up movies. I gave you 6 and Mister gave you another that were financial and critical success, that didn't have the Avenger/CW team up.

You may have enjoyed the Avengers/CW movies more than the standalone ones ( hell I think most of us do), but Marvel works just fine w/o it.

 

[Duwop]

The movies weren't just stand alone though. They constantly reminded you of the bigger universe. My case in point of the best part of first avenger when they linked the universe together.

That could have been shot in one day and it's completely separate from the story the movie told.

And as a stand alone it is not as good as Wonder woman.

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

The movies weren't just stand alone though. They constantly reminded you of the bigger universe. My case in point of the best part of first avenger when they linked the universe together.

That could have been shot in one day and it's completely separate from the story the movie told.

And as a stand alone it is not as good as Wonder woman.

So Black Panther and Ant-Man 2 was good/successful cuz they MENTIONED some things they did in CW.

Bruh even you don't believe in what you typing now, which is why we went from actual characters being in movies to just making references in the movies.

 

[Duwop]

was black panther not introduced in civil war? were the events of black panther... t'chaka being killed and t'challa being the new king not a direct result of the events in civil war?

 

[Duwop]

was this not used to promote a "solo" movie?

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

was this not used to promote a "solo" movie?

NO

That was a Superbowl ad in Feb 2016. Ant-Man came out 6 months prior.



And who cares how it was promoted or who appeared in what film originally. The standalone films I gave you didn't rely on other characters being IN their movie. Which was your point to began w/.

Marvel is character oriented. And crossover dependent. You need more than one superhero to make a marvel movie good.

Marvel works best with crossovers.

Cap1 trash
Cap 2 great
Cap 3 great

Difference.... Black widow, Bucky, more Nick fury, falcon, the whole crew in part 3

Thor 1 trash
Thor 2 trash
Thor 3 straight crack

Difference.... Add hulk... Instant hit.

And they know it too... They see what works, so naturally they milk it.... Tony Stark in spiderman.... They even joke about it.... Who they getting in their movie...

 

[Mister]

You are wasting your time. This has reached Dos/Lavar levels

 

[AP3.0]

Luke Cage is a standalone show

Jessica Jones is a standalone show

Daredevil is a standalone show

Iron fist is a standalone show

The Defenders is a group show with multiple characters in a shared universe all occupying the screen simultaneously

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

Luke Cage is a standalone show

Jessica Jones is a standalone show

Daredevil is a standalone show

Iron fist is a standalone show

The Defenders is a group show with multiple characters in a shared universe all occupying the screen simultaneously

They don't count either cuz they have made references to the MCU and it's characters.

 

[AP3.0]

They don't count either cuz they have made references to the MCU and it's characters.

yea, im not sure what point Du is trying to make

i dont think he sure either

 

[Infamous114]

Lol

 

[AP3.0]

ITT Du doesnt know how ecosystems work

 

[Duwop]

The point is that wonder woman is better than Captain America first avenger.

The point was because wonder woman has a better story to tell of her own.

Captain America best movies needed more characters from the shared universe to make them more interesting. As is common in most marvel movies.

Wonder woman works much better because DC movies tend to work better when standing alone and not trying to cram in other characters. DC has better solo stories to tell.

These are all very good points I'm making. Y'all just wanna argue to argue..
So y'all confused about what y'all arguing cuz y'all have no idea what the fuck y'all talking about...... Y'all just wanna argue against me.

I know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about Wonder woman being a better movie than Captain America, and I'm giving reasons why.


And please with the Netflix series.... Their crossover defenders series was a flop..... DC else world cross over is being treated like a damn movie coming out....

 

[Duwop]

And wonder woman leading the votes

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

And wonder woman leading the votes

Cuz it's one of the few movies in the MCU that it could win against.

 

[Old Man Cain]

Cuz it's one of the few movies in the MCU that it could win against.

Bruh................why are you going back and forth about this? Errrrrrrrrbody know Marvel movies are better than DC's lol it's not even close.

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

Bruh................why are you going back and forth about this? Errrrrrrrrbody know Marvel movies are better than DC's lol it's not even close.

it's my first back at work and I really don't wanna do shit.