Based on them being better.
I love damn near all them albums from 88. But lyrically alone 95-96 shits on them joints other than Rakim & Kane.
Best and Worst Eras In Hip Hop
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Based on them being better.
I love damn near all them albums from 88. But lyrically alone 95-96 shits on them joints other than Rakim & Kane.
Graduation
808 HB
MBDTF
All 3 moved the culture. I aint gotta post nothing else from 07-11
Yeah, even tho I don't like the last one 07-11 is better than 12-16.
K.Dot and Cole carry those years and as great as their albums are there was some better in 07-11
Trap era aint 12-16 bruh
Also K dot hasnt created an album as culture shifting as 808's, as raw as MBDTF, or as big as Graduation
#StadiumStatus
TPAB kicked started a wave that gave us forest hills/4:44/Seat at the table/Lemo... etc.
lol @ the other 2.
When was the trap era? DS2 was 2015 so ?
Man TPAB aint kick start.....man no.
Trap started with Tip and Jeezy with Toomp on the beat.
You wanna DS2 started the Junkie Era cool, but even then I'd give the nod to Wayne/Gucci over Future
Tip and Jeezy were doing "trap music" in the ringtone era. The snap dance music was at the forefront of hip hop. Trap has been in the forefront this decade.
Nah, Junkie has been in the forefront. Real trappers barely get the play while the junkie is whats hitting
Lets say the Junkie sound and the Ringtone sound offset, 07--11 sounds better than 12-16.
We can go album for album, artist for artist.
TPain alone held 07-11 done. What artist from 12-16 had a record like his
Drake @ tpain question
Hell no @ "junkie" and ringtone era offsets. The ringtone era made me hate hiphop and made Nas say hiphop was dead. That might've been the worst time in music history.
1. Follow The Leader
2. Boys In The Hood (Remix)
3. A Children's Story
4. The Symphony
5. Colors/Soul On Ice
6. You Gots To Chill
7. It Takes Two/Go On Girl
8. Talking All That Jazz
9. Straight Out The Jungle (Soulshock Remix)/The Promo/In Time
10. Night Of The Living Baseheads
11. Do The James
12. The Vapors
13. Life Is Too Short
14. Move Something
15. Beats To The Rhyme
^^^ That's my 15 song playlist from 88 (Do The James came out in 87, but the album came out in 88)
Having lived through both eras, I wouldn't say "lyrically 95-96 shits on 88" In 88 the production was fresh and new, sampling was at it's beginning and producers were discovering breaks and beats. DJs still existed and would scratch phrases from each others records. New regions were starting to sprout with 2 Live Crew, NWA and Too Short. In the first half of 88 the corporations hadn't totally taken over. By the mid 90s the tail was wagging the dog. You could put somebody on the cover of The Source and guarantee the artist's success because he was on the cover of The Source, not the other way around (i.e. putting a successful artist on the cover because he's successful). Artists were nothing more than a marketing scheme. Yeah, the music was dope, but it wasn't organic like it was in the 80s.
In fact, the industry didn't even know what, or how, rap producers were doing with sampling. the major corporations had no idea that people were sampling drum breaks and samples from 70s music. As a result you could sample, or scratch whatever you wanted.
Albums like It Takes A Nation of Millions, Paul's Boutique and 3 Feet High & Rising couldn't exist in the mid 90s because of the sample laws.
After the Gilbert O'Sullivan case the DJ fell by the wayside. You'd have a difficult time naming 3 DJs that existed in 95 or 96.
You keep talking all this corporate this corporate that shit
When YOU posted a Sprite commercial w/ Kurtis Blow from 86 and Run-DMC had a fuckn Adidas deal
Do that.
Take out the ringtones (which were more on the front end) and you got solid years.
HHID was 06, Snap was on the wane, and lyrical southern cats was stepping up, not allowing that bubblegum shit define them.
Wayne, TI, Luda, Ross....
I might move this era up.
I'm a make the thread
Reread what I said.
There was a small window between the Run DMC era and the Yo! MTV Raps era (86-88) where everything was organic and came together like a Rubik's Cube.
As The Source, Yo! MTV Raps and Arsenio Hall started to take over (say, 89-92) Hip Hop was no longer organic, it was corporate made.
By the mid 90s there were very few, if any, albums released on independent labels (except No Limit). The major corporations started running Hip Hop in the early 90s and by 95-96 you had to get the cover of The Source, perform on Arsenio and do an interview with Dre & Ed Lover to be a rapper. The actual music itself was secondary.
Having said that, I think the mixtapes that came out of NYC in 95-96 were more exciting than the actual albums. The mixtapes were organic, the albums were dispensable. Most of the albums from the mid 90s had 1 or 2 GOAT singles, but the albums themselves became weed plates.
The era of 87-88 was the first era where there was an abundance of different styles, coming from all angles, every region was represented, and you could trace the 95-96 era directly back to the 87-88 era.
87-88 was like solving the Rubik's Cube.