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Breaking News ‘Multiple Casualties’ In Shooting At Pittsburgh Synagogue. Update: 11 people confirmed dead

The Lonious Monk said:
My bad. I got you mixed up with the person I originally quoted, so I thought that's where you were coming from. You didn't quote my post out of context though. I wasn't just saying "Hey, we had it worse" for the sake of saying that. I was pointing out the error in the other person's thinking. His post implied that we'd be next, when in reality some of us could have been the first victims last week if not for the quick thinking by one of the deacons. We're not upcoming targets. We're targets right now.
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And I agree with that...I just don't see the need in bringing that up while discussing Jewish folks being killed in their place of worship and I think the dude who made the original post was wrong for saying that "We're 2nd" shit too. The tit for tat shit I see on social media about folks always trying to prove who has it the worst is annoying
 
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Trumps Don’t Get Typical Greeting From Local Officials During Pittsburgh Visit


PITTSBURGH (AP) — One stone and one rosebud for each victim.

President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump paid solemn tribute Tuesday to each of the 11 people slain in the worst instance of anti-Semitic violence in American history. As the Trumps placed their remembrances outside the Tree of Life synagogue, protesters nearby shouted that the president was not welcome.

The Trumps first went inside the vestibule of the synagogue, where they lit candles for each victim before stepping outside. It was a marker of the political divisions roiling the nation in the aftermath of the Sabbath shooting that shouts of “Words matter!” and “Trump, go home!” could be heard from demonstrators gathered not far from where a gunman had opened fire on Saturday.

Rabbi Jeffrey Myers, who had been conducting services when the shots rang out, led the first couple outside and gestured at white Jewish stars posted for each victim. At each, the president placed a stone, a Jewish burial tradition, while the first lady added a flower. They were trailed by first daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who are Jewish.

Trump stepped into the role of national consoler, a title he wears uncomfortably, as he arrived in Squirrel Hill, the neighborhood where he faced an uneasy welcome. Flowers, candles and chalk drawings filled the nearby corner, including a small rock painted with the number “6,000,011,” adding the victims this week to the estimated number of Jews killed in the Holocaust.

Squirrel Hill resident Paul Carberry, 55, said Trump should not have visited until the dead were buried, and he decried the president’s divisive rhetoric.

“He didn’t pull the trigger, but his verbiage and actions don’t help,” Carberry said. Hundreds of protesters assembled to show their displeasure with Trump’s presence.

When Air Force One touched down at the airport outside Pittsburgh, the Trumps were not greeted by the usual phalanx of local officials that typically welcomes a visiting president, a reflection of controversy surrounding the visit.

Local and religious leaders were divided on whether Trump should have come.

Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto, a Democrat, told reporters before the visit was announced that the White House ought to consult with the families of the victims about their preferences and asked that the president not come during a funeral. Neither he nor Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf planned to appear with Trump.

As his motorcade wound through downtown Pittsburgh, some onlookers saluted the president with upraised middle fingers and others with downturned thumbs. Scattered protest signs included messages

The White House invited the top four congressional leaders to join Trump in Pennsylvania, but none accompanied him.

A spokesman for Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he already had events in his home state of Kentucky, pushing back on the suggestion that he declined. Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan’s office said he could not attend on short notice. Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi also opted not to participate.

Questions have long swirled about the president’s credibility as a unifier. Since his 2016 Republican campaign for the White House, Trump has at times been slow to denounce white nationalists, neo-Nazis and other hate-filled individuals and groups that found common cause with his nationalistic political rhetoric.

Trump traveled to the historic hub of the city’s Jewish community as the first funerals were held for the victims, who range in age from 54 to 97. The dead include a set of brothers, a husband and wife, professors, dentists and a physician. It was not immediately clear whether Trump would meet with any family members.

Those who live in the tight-knit community were uncertain about whether they wanted the presidential visit. To Marianne Novy, Trump wasn’t wanted “unless he really changes his ways.” For David Dvir, politics should take a pause for grief: “It’s our president, and we need to welcome him.”

Barry Werber, 76, who said he survived the massacre by hiding in a dark storage closet as the gunman rampaged through the building, said he hoped Trump wouldn’t visit, noting that the president has embraced the politically fraught label of “nationalist.” Werber said the Nazis were nationalists.

“It’s part of his program to instigate his base,” Werber said, and “bigots are coming out of the woodwork.”

Novy, 73, a retired college English professor, said she signed an open letter asking Trump not to come to Pittsburgh. “His language has encouraged hatred and fear of immigrants, which is part of the reason why these people were killed,” she said.

Just minutes before the synagogue attack, the shooter apparently used social media to rage against HIAS, a Jewish organization that resettles refugees under contract with the U.S. government.

Dvir, 52, the owner of Murray Avenue Locksmith in Squirrel Hill, said of Trump: “I think he made some mistakes, but he is a great president.” He added that it would be “a shame” if the community protested the president’s visit.

Asked Monday if Trump had done enough to condemn white nationalism, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the president “has denounced racism, hatred and bigotry in all forms on a number of occasions.”

Beth Melena, campaign spokeswoman for Wolf, said the governor did not plan to return to Pittsburgh as part of Trump’s visit on Tuesday. She said he based his decision on input from the victims’ families, who told him they did not want the president to be there on the day their loved ones were being buried.

“Community leaders expressed to the governor that they did not feel it was appropriate for Trump to come, so the governor made a decision not to join him on his visit out of respect for the families and the community,” Melena said.
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Conway Criticizes Pittsburghers ‘Politically Protesting’ Trump’s Visit

White House staffer Kellyanne Conway criticized the thousands of Pittsburghers who protested the President’s visit to the city Tuesday in the aftermath of a synagogue shooting Saturday that left 11 Jews dead.

In an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier from the White House lawn, Conway said it was “unfortunate people were out there politically protesting with different messages today.”

“That is their First Amendment right, but this President was not about politics today, he was about the mourning in Pittsburgh,” Conway said.

“People who want to find negative will always find it,” she added later, after Baier asked if she expected that Trump would “speak out more about this, against white nationalism or anti-Semitism?”

Conway said Trump has been “doing that, though, all along.”

The mayor of Pittsburgh himself urged Trump not to visit the city so soon after Saturday’s massacre because funerals for the victims are ongoing. In fact, politicians on both sides of aisle declined to accompany Trump during his trip.

When Trump arrived at the Tree of Life synagogue Tuesday, he was greeted outside by two people: Rabbi Jeffrey Myers and Ron Dermer, Israel’s ambassador to the United States. The White House did not immediately respond to TPM’s questions about why Dermer was there to greet Trump.
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Jesse Watters: No One Blamed Obama For ‘Anti-Police Rhetoric’ When Cops Were Executed Under Him

Jesse Watters called foul on the media drawing a line from President Donald Trump‘s violent rhetoric to the violent incidents of last week: the pipe bombs mailed by one of his supporters to prominent Democrats and the media, and the massacre of 11 at a synagogue by a gunman who was enraged by the migrant caravan in Mexico.

Watters first lamented that politicians in Philadelphia refused to join Trump as he visited the Pittsburgh synagogue, blaming the decision on partisan politics.

“Unfortunately, politicians watch television and they get their cues,” he said.

When The Five co-host Juan Williams claimed Trump’s rhetoric for contributing to the current climate, Watters called his comments “cheap.”

Watters turned to former President Barack Obama, and the shootings of police officers that occurred during his administration.

“I just want to say one thing. When there was shootings of police officers, and officers in this country were executed in New York City and in Texas during the Obama Administration, no one blamed Barack Obama for his anti-police rhetoric, or supporting Black Lives Matter,” Watters said. “No one linked him to that. No one said his rhetoric contributed to an atmosphere where cops were killed. We were all very prudent and responsible.”

Evidence of Obama’s alleged “anti-police rhetoric” is scant. Regardless, he did get blamed by many in conservative media — particularly at Fox News — for the killing of against police officers during his administration.
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Yall make sure you go out and vote. Our votes take place this friday. Conservatives vs Liberals has always existed, but now days it feels like both sides are just waiting for the other to make a big move against eachother so shit can pop off.
 
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Synagogue Shooting Suspect Pleads Not Guilty To Federal Murder, Hate Crimes

PITTSBURGH (AP) — The anti-Semitic truck driver accused of gunning down 11 people at a Pittsburgh synagogue pleaded not guilty on Thursday to federal charges that could put him on death row.

Robert Bowers, 46, was arraigned one day after a grand jury issued a 44-count indictment that charges him with murder, hate crimes, obstructing the practice of religion and other crimes. It was his second brief appearance in a federal courtroom since the weekend massacre at Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh’s Squirrel Hill neighborhood.

“Yes!” Bowers said in a loud voice when asked if he understood the charges.

Authorities say Bowers raged against Jews during and after the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in American history.

Bowers, who was shot and wounded during a gun battle that injured four police officers, walked into court under his own power, his left arm heavily bandaged. He was in a wheelchair at his first court appearance on Monday.

Bowers, who is stocky and square-faced with salt-and-pepper, closely cropped hair, frowned as the charges were read but did not appear to have a reaction as a federal prosecutor announced he could face a death sentence. He told a prosecutor he had read the indictment.

One of his federal public defenders, Michael Novara, said Bowers pleaded not guilty, “as is typical at this stage of the proceeding.”

Bowers had been set for a preliminary hearing on the evidence, but federal prosecutors instead took the case to a grand jury.

The panel issued the indictment as funerals continued for the victims.

Jared Younger of Los Angeles told mourners that he waited for hours Saturday for his father to pick up his phone or let them know he was all right. The dread built all day until his sister learned their father, Irving Younger, had indeed been shot and killed.

“That waiting stage was just unbearable,” Jared Younger said at his father’s funeral Wednesday. “Saturday was the most lonely day of my life.”

Funerals were planned Thursday for Bernice and Sylvan Simon, husband and wife, and Dr. Richard Gottfried, a dentist who worked part-time at a clinic treating refugees and immigrants. The oldest victim, 97-year-old Rose Mallinger, will be honored at a service Friday. Her daughter was injured in the attack.

Friends recalled Irving Younger, 69, as a “kibbitzing, people-loving” man. He was one of the first people Rabbi Jeffrey Myers met when he came to town last year from New Jersey to lead Tree of Life.

Myers, who survived the massacre, is presiding over five funerals for seven congregants this week. He ran a few minutes late to Younger’s service because he was still at the burial for another victim, Joyce Fienberg.

“I can’t imagine the stress he’s under,” said his predecessor, Rabbi Charles “Chuck” Diamond.

As Younger’s service was wrapping up, Myers momentarily forgot to read a letter to the family that another rabbi had sent.

“After preparing for five funerals, you get a little verklempt,” Myers said.

Bowers remained jailed without bail.
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Trump To Reporters: ‘You’re Creating Violence By Your Questions’


President Donald Trump took his “enemy of the people” diatribe a step further on Friday, accusing “fake news” and reporters of “creating violence” by their “questions.”

“No, no, you know what, you’re creating violence by your questions,” he said. “You are creating, you. And also a lot of the reporters are creating violence by not writing the truth. The fake news is creating violence.”

“And you know what?” he continued. “The people that support Trump and the people that support us, which is a lot of people, most people, many people, those people know when a story is true and they know when a story is false. And I’ll tell you what, if the media would write correctly and write accurately and write fairly, you’d have a lot less violence in the country.”

Trump’s comments follow days of intense criticism for his divisive, and often violent rhetoric against the media and his critics. Some have linked his tone to recent attacks, like the pipe bombs that were sent through the mail to high-level Democrats — including the Obamas and the Clintons — and the massacre at a Pittsburgh synagogue over the weekend.
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Gab Is Back, And As Full Of Hate Speech As Ever


Gab, the favored social media network of America’s racists and anti-Semites, was back online Sunday and as full of hate speech as ever.

The site was dropped by hosting provider GoDaddy.com last weekend after the man accused of killing 11 people in a Pittsburgh synagogue was discovered to have an active account full of threatening, demeaning posts about Jews.

But Epik agreed to take over as the site’s host, as Gab announced in a triumphant Sunday tweet.

“Here is our press release to the media: You failed,” the tweet read. “We are back online. We grow stronger by the hour. Free speech lives at http://Gab.com . This is only the beginning. May God have mercy on you for what you people have done this past week. Peace, love, and prayers.”

The site’s feeds quickly filled up with the kind of hateful posts that it has become known for, including posts blaming Jews for the attack on one of their own sites of worship.

“Hey Jews! We’re back on Gab now,” wrote Chris Cantwell, one of the white nationalists arrested for assault following last summer’s “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. “Pretty soon the average citizen is going to figure out that we wouldn’t be having these problems in your absence.”

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Gab is run by pro-Trump, anti-political-correctness crusader Andrew Torba. Though Torba, the company’s CEO, insists his site exists simply to encourage “the free flow of information online,” his refusal to moderate content has allowed it to become a cesspool of hate speech.

Rob Monster, founder and CEO of Gab’s new host Epik, defended his decision to “welcome” Gab in a blog post, claiming that “de-platforming is digital censorship.”

Quoting Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin, and Uncle Ben from “Spider-Man,” Monster wrote that he felt confident that Torba will serve as a “responsible steward” of the site.
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I feel like it's a reach trying to dump this all on Trump honestly. The man says some outlandish shit no doubt but people acting like he put the gun in his hand and gave him the order and that's misleading
 
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Feds Request Pretrial Detention For Neo-Nazi Linked To Pittsburgh Shooter

Federal prosecutors on Thursday requested that the avowed neo-Nazi who was friends on social media with the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter be held in a Washington, D.C. jail while he awaits trial on gun charges.

In a court filing submitted Thursday evening, prosecutors claim that Jeffrey Raphiel Clark poses a risk to his community and that the seriousness of the charges against him merit detention.

“The defendant in this case poses a further threat to the public because, interlaced with the defendant’s drug use and possession of firearms, is his glorification and justification of acts of violence directed at racial, religious and LGBTQ communities,” the prosecutors wrote.

“The case against him is overwhelming,” they add.

Clark was arrested on Friday Nov. 9 on two charges of illegally possessing weapons after his relatives notified police about his increasingly erratic behavior and praise for suspected Pittsburgh shooter Robert Bowers. Clark’s brother Edward, 23, killed himself in the hours after the Oct. 27 massacre at Tree of Life synagogue. The brothers were actively involved in the white nationalist movement, attending events and expressing their hatred for black people and Jews on social media.

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The new court documents are brimming with information about their alleged activities, including photographs of guns and ammunition Jeffrey Clark kept in his room along with Nazi flags and military gear. They also contain transcripts of Clark’s interview with an FBI agent following his arrest, in which he allegedly admits he “said some very, very extreme stuff” and even “expressed like support of violence if certain lines were crossed.”

In interviews with FBI agents after his arrest, Jeffrey purportedly said that the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter “did it because he’s a white nationalist and he’s mad at Jews.”

“He was upset with what . . . what he sees as Jewish groups destroying America based on what he saw from that caravan, the migrant caravan that was going on, and he decided he wanted to retaliate,” the court filing cites Jeffrey as saying.

The FBI agents ask him about any ties to Robert Bowers, the Pittsburgh shooter, but Jeffrey is cited as telling law enforcement that he had no specific memories of them talking, though he “recognized the name” after the massacre occurred.

When the agents purportedly asked about Edward, however, Jeffrey suddenly became tight-lipped.

“Clark was reluctant to talk about his brother Edward,” the filing reads, adding that Clark told the FBI agents that Edward’s suicide was not related to Bowers but rather to his being “black-pilled” by society – a metaphor for a state of despair.

Jeffrey, who the filing states is unemployed, also let the FBI in on his “future plans.”

“The defendant indicated he would like to move to West Virginia to non-violently “take-over” a town with “like-minded white nationalists,” the filing reads.

Jeffrey allegedly remained committed to his neo-Nazism, telling FBI agents that he was “committed to the survival of the white race by any means necessary.”

“I said some very, very extreme stuff, I said some stuff that even like you know, maybe like expressed like support of violence if certain lines were crossed, but I never told anyone to go do anything or ever issued any credible threat or anything like that,” he purportedly told the FBI agents.

Jeffrey allegedly added, when asked about which “lines” he had in mind: “We should take up arms against the government if they take away our guns.”

In a search conducted after Jeffrey’s arrest, law enforcement say they two partly completed AR-15s with modifications for conversion to “complete rifle,” along with hollow-point ammo (extra deadly), a noose, and Confederate and Nazi flags.

One of the jarring discoveries was a flyer from the Atomwaffen Division, a neo-Nazi terrorist organization linked to the suspects in five murders across the U.S. The black-and-white flyer shows a dancing skeleton stomping on a pile of bodies alongside this text: “THIS DEPRAVITY ONLY BREEDS THEIR WEAKNESS A WEAK OPPOSITION PUTS THEM AT OUR MERCY . . . WE SHOW NONE.”

Atomwaffen believes that Jewish oligarchies and globalist bankers are bent on displacing the white race, and train its adherents to prepare for a coming race war. The group idolizes serial killer Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.
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