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Dwayne said:
It’s more the seven trans k

The talk about abortion was another topic that if she won, she she had no control over changing.

It’s a state level issue now and she couldn’t overturn that to a federal

So therefore, her campaigning on it it up at every turn was just wasted words

She should’ve focused on economic issues only. If the people feel like you will make America affordable, they would’ve turned out and voted for her, both sides, but the dems campaign focus was not where it needed to be.
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How was campaigning on abortion wasted words when it was a popular agenda that won in every single state down every single ballot?

Abortion was a popular agenda. It won on every ballot. That's not wasted words.

Your point about economic issues is flawed because nobody who criticized Kamala on the economy can explain why the economy under Trump will be better. He has no economic plan. She does. He wants to implement crushing tariffs and eliminate a large chuck of the workforce by deporting them. He also wants to cut taxes for the wealthiest earners and gut social programs like Social Security.

Trump's economic plans are only beneficial for the wealthy. It does not make America affordable.
 
Los216 said:
Black women didn't get duped. Black men didn't get duped.

Black people showed up and voted above expectation. Black turnout surpassed projections across the board.

You can diss white women and Latino's without tearing down Black people.

Black people don't have shit to do with Latino's and white women voting against their own interest. Black voters showed up and showed out. So how are we following behind white women when we did our part and they didn't? How does that make Black women followers?

All that does is expose white women for the frauds that they are. They doesn't make Black women followers? How can the actions of another race make Black women followers if they didn't follow along with what they did?
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I asked this questions and it hasn't gotten answered.

If 10 million black were registered to vote and only 2 voted for Kamala. 8 million didn't vote for her, stayed at home

If 2 million voted for her, that would give her a 100% rate with black people, do the % comes from the 2million that participated or does the % come from All of the black registered voters?
 
Los216 said:
Look at what you're doing. You're creating different rules for both parties.

It's not Republicans job to oppose Democrats agenda. Their job is to give their constituents what they want.

And nobody is fear mongering shit. I'm just telling you that you cannot have smoke for only one side when they work in tandem.
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It is the Republicans job to oppose their Democrats agenda. That's what their people want lol.

See that's another reason Democrats suck.

They believe it isn't a zero-sum game. They believe they are supposed to find an argument and convince the "good" Republicans to let them run the country in this cold, rational, way that benefits both sides and the country.

And that's not real life and that's not how politics ever worked in America.

Republicans are looking to win and dominate the country at every level of power, as they should.

All this, "Republicans opposed what the Dems wanted" talk is for losers.

Go fucking win.

I don't vote Democrat, so they can go in there and try to befriend and understand Republicans. I vote so they can go step on their throats.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I said this back awhile ago too, people vote and spend money in a monolith way.

See the white women and white men in this country.

See the Arabs and other groups when they support black businesses, they don't. Folks stick together

We as black folks need to move like this, but we folks who think that we should just vote for folks just because and you see where it gets you, at the bottom
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Other races do not stick together like you're saying. Latino's and white people are more divided politically than Black people.

Look at the numbers. Look at the votes for Black people. 80% for democrats for both Black Men and Black Women. Now look at the votes for whites, latinos and asians. Their votes are more split and divided than Black people yet here you are saying that we don't move as a whole better than they do but all the data out there says that we do.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I asked this questions and it hasn't gotten answered.

If 10 million black were registered to vote and only 2 voted for Kamala. 8 million didn't vote for her, stayed at home

If 2 million voted for her, that would give her a 100% rate with black people, do the % comes from the 2million that participated or does the % come from All of the black registered voters?
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Can you rephrase this? I'm lost.
 
dodge said:
I’m not saying republicans are better…that’s why I said I look at policies, not parties

One thing I will say though…is that Republicans don’t pander to us as much as Dems do…and that’s a fucking fact

This campaign alone should show you this
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Republicans very much pander just not in same way Democrats do.
BlackRain said:
Another person history won't look too fondly on the last part of their political career...Ruth Bader Ginsburg. They should've made her old ass retire. That also has led to some of the fuckery we see now
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I already know Republicans are gonna put pressure on Thomas and Alito to step. I bet Thomas goes first...
 
ZMaKEa said:
Go fucking win.

I don't vote Democrat, so they can go in there and try to befriend and understand Republicans. I vote so they can go step on their throats.
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Well, in order to win, you need a majority. To get a majority, you need to have the candidates. To have the candidates, you need to vote.

People do not vote and then complain that the things that require voting in order to take place aren't happening.
 
Tayboo said:
Republicans very much pander just not in same way Democrats do.

I already know Republicans are gonna put pressure on Thomas and Alito to step. I bet Thomas goes first...
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Nether will leave until they clean up Trump's cases. Which will happen in short order.
 
Tayboo said:
Republicans very much pander just not in same way Democrats do.

I already know Republicans are gonna put pressure on Thomas and Alito to step. I bet Thomas goes first...
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Man Trump probably gonna resign soon as he appoints the 2nd new SCJ and hand shit over the Vance. Trump don't really wanna be President. He wants to power and prestige of the title. Thats why if you notice in all his interviews after he left office he kept insisting on being called Mr. President still.
 
Los216 said:
Other races do not stick together like you're saying. Latino's and white people are more divided politically than Black people.

Look at the numbers. Look at the votes for Black people. 80% for democrats for both Black Men and Black Women. Now look at the votes for whites, latinos and asians. Their votes are more split and divided than Black people yet here you are saying that we don't move as a whole better than they do but all the data out there says that we do.
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Exactly. Add black people to this divided demographic soon unless we can start compromising with each other. If people want to continue to stick to non-starter issues and be misled we’ll just have to move for self instead of as a collective.

And as much as it pains me I’ll be good regardless. I’ll actually be better under Trump financially, but I don’t vote only on personal issues.
 
BlackRain said:
Man Trump probably gonna resign soon as he appoints the 2nd new SCJ and hand shit over the Vance. Trump don't really wanna be President. He wants to power and prestige of the title. Thats why if you notice in all his interviews after he left office he kept insisting on being called Mr. President still.
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Nah his ego is waaaaaay too big to resign. If he could find a way to get rid of the 8 year term limit he would do it in a heartbeat.
 
Los216 said:
Can you rephrase this? I'm lost.
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Folks are speaking on how Kamala got the black support by the % of men and women.

What I'm asking you is how that support is measured.

If 20 million black folks are registered voters but only 2 million black folks outta of that 25 million came out and voted for her.

Would the media say that Kamala got the black support because 2 million black folks voted for Kamala? They have 2 million on row that voted, cast votes into the system, would the media/stat technician take that 2million and see that Kamala got all 2 million votes which would result in her having 100% support from black folks.

Is this the way they calculate the % that she receives from certain groups, with the number of votes cast for them??
 
Los216 said:
Well, in order to win, you need a majority. To get a majority, you need to have the candidates. To have the candidates, you need to vote.

People do not vote and then complain that the things that require voting in order to take place aren't happening.
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No. Democrats don't run good campaigns and have terrible choices in candidates because they don't have a unified, vision of what America should be like, expressed in good public policy and therefore they lose.

They go around pandering to minority groups and single issue voters to collect votes.

If the Democrats acted like a political party with a concise ideology instead of a cartel funnelling money around to losers, maybe they wouldn't act shocked when they lose.

Being the "sane and normal" party isn't enough. Pandering to gender and race like a humanities grad student isn't enough. Free shit and tax breaks isn't enough.

It never has been enough. The only difference is the country and the entire world is in crisis and the middle classes are moving to the right to secure their place in society at the expense of everyone else.

Neo-liberal technocratic parties can't stop it.
 
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