Iceberg_Taylor
THE FINAL BOSS
Lmao! Nigga in here posted up by his PC angrily waiting for responses
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Huh? I’m saying we’re bringing back our core. You’re talking about things you can’t quantify like OG and Siakim becoming what you’re hoping they’ll become.
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King Freeman
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Uh nobody is guessing with siakam. And stop acting like Lowry, gasol, and ibaka don't exist just because they're pieces you don't have.
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King Freeman
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Matter fact. Outside of kyrie. Who is better than any of these 4 players on the nets?
no dog in the fight here but i see it on both sides
i think both of ya'll are making some very real plausible assumptions that all the players mentioned will take the logical next step
I don't think anything is wrong with assuming that, BUT, i give the edge to the nets. They are going to be playing with house money while the raptors will feel the pressure to do SOMETHING that resembles a successful season with Leonard bolting in FA.
As far as the players, idk man, I like LeVert returning back to full form post injury. I think Allen is a legit problem in the paint for the opposition. I'm not as low as many people are on Kyrie, BUT, I don't think he's gonna move the needle a ton this year and in a vacuum, that should be ok I guess.
I think everyone from the raptors makes the next step, but it still wont be enough for a deep run.
I hope they meet in the playoffs so i can see the shit talking b/t ya'll tho lol
i think both of ya'll are making some very real plausible assumptions that all the players mentioned will take the logical next step
I don't think anything is wrong with assuming that, BUT, i give the edge to the nets. They are going to be playing with house money while the raptors will feel the pressure to do SOMETHING that resembles a successful season with Leonard bolting in FA.
As far as the players, idk man, I like LeVert returning back to full form post injury. I think Allen is a legit problem in the paint for the opposition. I'm not as low as many people are on Kyrie, BUT, I don't think he's gonna move the needle a ton this year and in a vacuum, that should be ok I guess.
I think everyone from the raptors makes the next step, but it still wont be enough for a deep run.
I hope they meet in the playoffs so i can see the shit talking b/t ya'll tho lol
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Sorry. I didn't clarify... One that's gonna play the next season. We know the answer tho.
Nets trash af.
Dinwiddie>>Ibaka and Gasol. Dinwiddie=Siakim even though Siakim has more upside.
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King Freeman
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Washed Gasol and a 37 year old fronting as a 30 year old is better than Dinwiddie right now? How is it farfetched to say that Dinwiddie and Pascal isn’t close or even?
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King Freeman
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Marc gasol is 34. You might as well have stayed quiet. Haven't said a single substantial fact.
Off this.
Off this.
Iceberg_Taylor
THE FINAL BOSS
Yeah, you can tell this nigga didn’t actually watch any Nets game or know much about the roster. You don’t even have to look that far into the raptors to know they won’t be that great. There were many times during the playoffs even where Kawhi was their crutch & savior. Why am I to believe their roster is so much better now that he’s gone? We really here putting heavy stock into a mid 30s Marc Gasol & an older Lowry who now has no Derozan or Kawhi at his disposal?
He done too. You’re making it seem like they’re clearly better than Dinwiddie
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Anyway I'm done dragging you niggas for the day.
#1hiphopjunki3
Go Spurs Go!!
After watching Summer League you can see why the Spurs liked Samanic. The guy has a lot of skills for a person who is 6'11". He is a really good athlete, can shoot, and put the ball on the floor a bit. His passing also was underrated and he is a solid rebounder. He has to get bigger and stronger as well as get better court awareness defensive wise but he has a lot of good things to work with.
I like all 3 rookies we drafted and I think Weatherspoon could actually play sooner rather than later
By sending Paul George to the Clippers and Russell Westbrook to the Rockets, Oklahoma City is becoming the first team ever to trade two reigning All-NBA players in the same offseason. The Thunder are the first team in decades to trade even two reigning All-Stars in the same offseason.
The sequence appears clear: George requested a trade. Oklahoma City granted it. With one star gone, the Thunder had less ability to win with Westbrook. So, they dealt him, too.
But if George didn’t request a trade this summer, Westbrook might have been moved soon, anyway.
Howard Beck of Bleacher Report:
The Thunder had probably peaked. They’ve been good the last few years, but not good enough to win a playoff series. The supporting cast was expensive, and further upgrades would’ve likely been too costly. Westbrook is too good to tank. The four years and $171,139,920 remaining on his contract are a major liability.
However, Westbrook has meant so much to Oklahoma City. His loyalty after Kevin Durant left was so huge.
It would have been difficult to handle the politics of trading him if George didn’t ask out first. That made it so Westbrook was ready to leave. Thunder fans seem supportive of both Westbrook and the organization.
I believe Oklahoma City general manager Sam Presti believes he would’ve traded Westbrook soon, regardless. That was clearly the right move for getting past this era of stagnation.
But it’s another thing to pull the trigger on moving such a beloved player. It wouldn’t have necessarily happened, especially not smoothly.
The sequence appears clear: George requested a trade. Oklahoma City granted it. With one star gone, the Thunder had less ability to win with Westbrook. So, they dealt him, too.
But if George didn’t request a trade this summer, Westbrook might have been moved soon, anyway.
Howard Beck of Bleacher Report:
George’s trade request was a blessing in disguise for the Thunder. They got a massive haul from the Clippers and clearance to trade Westbrook, a franchise icon. The Westbrook trade netted even more draft strong draft considerations from Houston. Oklahoma City has a great head start on its rebuild.
The Thunder had probably peaked. They’ve been good the last few years, but not good enough to win a playoff series. The supporting cast was expensive, and further upgrades would’ve likely been too costly. Westbrook is too good to tank. The four years and $171,139,920 remaining on his contract are a major liability.
However, Westbrook has meant so much to Oklahoma City. His loyalty after Kevin Durant left was so huge.
It would have been difficult to handle the politics of trading him if George didn’t ask out first. That made it so Westbrook was ready to leave. Thunder fans seem supportive of both Westbrook and the organization.
I believe Oklahoma City general manager Sam Presti believes he would’ve traded Westbrook soon, regardless. That was clearly the right move for getting past this era of stagnation.
But it’s another thing to pull the trigger on moving such a beloved player. It wouldn’t have necessarily happened, especially not smoothly.
Lol these anonymous NBA executives commenting on these players max deals. Let me find some quotes
Kawhi:
"Kawhi is great getting his, but he doesn't elevate anyone," the GM says. "He doesn't rally his team."
An Eastern Conference vice president of player personnel somewhat agrees. "He does have leadership qualities," he says, "but it depends on how you define 'leader.' He's obviously not vocal, and he's not a galvanizer. He does it with his work ethic and by example."
Khris Middleton:
"The Lakers can make Khris Middleton their fourth-best player and still make money," the Western Conference GM says. "The Bucks can't."
Tobias Harris:
"You don't want to lose an asset for nothing," he says. "Philly gave up a lot to get Tobias Harris. It's going to limit you going forward, you're not going to have as many options, but what other choice do you have?
Klay Thompson:
"He's a good player, but he's not a leader," the Western Conference GM says. "He just shows up and hoops."
Kawhi:
"Kawhi is great getting his, but he doesn't elevate anyone," the GM says. "He doesn't rally his team."
An Eastern Conference vice president of player personnel somewhat agrees. "He does have leadership qualities," he says, "but it depends on how you define 'leader.' He's obviously not vocal, and he's not a galvanizer. He does it with his work ethic and by example."
Khris Middleton:
"The Lakers can make Khris Middleton their fourth-best player and still make money," the Western Conference GM says. "The Bucks can't."
Tobias Harris:
"You don't want to lose an asset for nothing," he says. "Philly gave up a lot to get Tobias Harris. It's going to limit you going forward, you're not going to have as many options, but what other choice do you have?
Klay Thompson:
"He's a good player, but he's not a leader," the Western Conference GM says. "He just shows up and hoops."
#1hiphopjunki3
Go Spurs Go!!
I think people are sleeping on the Raptors big time in this thread. They played well during the season when Kawhi rested and have basically the same squad minus him and Danny coming back next season. Now I don't think they are winning the championship but they will be a top 5 eastern conference team barring Injuries.
The Nets are a deeper team than many casual fans know and the additions of Kyrie and DeAndre Jordan only helps their depth. My issue with them is the coaching staff is going to have to accommodate Kyrie and DeAndre's play style. Which In theory shouldn't be too crazy because the Nets liked running pick & roll while in the half court set but is Kyrie and Jordan going to want to run and are they going to have any issues sharing the ball and play time with the young playerz to accommodate the team and winning?
The Nets have the potential for more serious continuity issues than the Raptors which makes me believe the Raptors will be this regular season the team out of the 2 barring Injuries with the better record
The Nets are a deeper team than many casual fans know and the additions of Kyrie and DeAndre Jordan only helps their depth. My issue with them is the coaching staff is going to have to accommodate Kyrie and DeAndre's play style. Which In theory shouldn't be too crazy because the Nets liked running pick & roll while in the half court set but is Kyrie and Jordan going to want to run and are they going to have any issues sharing the ball and play time with the young playerz to accommodate the team and winning?
The Nets have the potential for more serious continuity issues than the Raptors which makes me believe the Raptors will be this regular season the team out of the 2 barring Injuries with the better record
HarryHippie
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That first anonymous quote on Kawhi is why I don’t take claims he the best in the league serious. Based on what
Just let niggas have it and move on. Definitely top 5-7 but I know for a fact I’m taking 4 guys ahead of him (Steph,KD, Joel, AD)
Just let niggas have it and move on. Definitely top 5-7 but I know for a fact I’m taking 4 guys ahead of him (Steph,KD, Joel, AD)
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