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DMorgan said:
Mikey got a beating but I will say this. Mikey never took consecutive flush shots from Spence. One flush shot might land but whatever Spence followed up was either partially blocked, rolled with or just a lil off target in not landing flush.

That is the reason IMO Garcia didn't get knocked out or the fight wasn't stopped.
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True but i would have stopped it round 9
 
https://www.boxingscene.com/brook-i-beating-spence-my-eye-went-100-id-win--137205

Brook: I Was Beating Spence, But My Eye Went - At 100% I'd Win!

On Saturday night at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, Errol Spence dominated four division world champion Mikey Garcia to retain the IBF welterweight title.

It was the third world title defense for Spence, since capturing the world title with a knockout win over Kell Brook in Sheffield.

Spence put away Brook in a competitive fight, when he fractured the Sheffield boxer's eye socket in the eleventh round.

Brook, 32-years-old, has now undergone surgery on both his eye sockets, believes he can still operate at the highest level and would welcome a rematch with Spence.

Brook believes that he was winning the fight with Spence, prior to getting stopped.

He's been pushing for a rematch and believes that he'd win - if his body is 100% healthy for the bout.

"I'm brand new, I'm ready for those massive fights," said Brook to Sky Sports. "I've got plenty more to give for the fans. I'm excited about these big fights.

"I believe he [Spence Jr] dominated the fight. That fight is still there. He still mentions my name, he still would like to fight me, because he knows I was beating him.

"The people around me know what my training camp was like for that fight. I was far from 100 percent, and I was beating him, and the eye went. I would love that fight again.

"A 100 percent me, beats Errol Spence, and he's one of the biggest names in boxing. I think those fights are still there to be made."

As reported earlier on BoxingScene.com, Brook is planning to fight again on June 1, as part of the Anthony Joshua vs. Jarrell Miller undercard from Madison Square Garden in New York City.

Spence is planning to return in the summer months. He hopes to face eight division champion Manny Pacquiao or WBC welterweight champ Shawn Porter.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/schaefer-spence-best-p4p-fighter-he-beat-garcia-with-skill--137188

Schaefer: Spence is Best P4P Fighter, He Beat Garcia With Skill
By Radio Rahim

Richard Schaefer, CEO of Ringstar Sports, was very impressed with Saturday night's performance by IBF welterweight champion Errol Spence (25-0, 21 KOs).

Schaefer, who works closely with four division world champion Mikey Garcia, watched his boxer get dominated over twelve rounds by Spence at AT&T Stadium in Arlington Texas.

Garcia (39-1, 30 KOs), who was moving up by two weight divisions, suffered his first career defeat.

Schaefer believed Garcia was be the more skilled fighter, with Spence holding the edge with size and power.

But instead it was Spence who dominated with his skill.

"He didn't win that fight with size or with power - he won that fight with skills. And we all thought if it came down to skills, Mikey Garcia would be the one to win the fight based on skills. But based on skills, Errol Spence won that fight and it was absolutely beautiful to watch. His combinations and his display of skills, I've hardly seen anything like it," Schaefer said.

Based on what he witnessed, Schaefer now views Spence was the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport.

"The new pound for pound king is right here. The best fighter in the world comes from Dallas," Schaefer said.

"Errol Spence is in a perfect weight class, he's in the deepest weight class. There are so many great fights that can be done at welterweight. There are so many great fights, such a long list, and Errol Spence is not afraid to challenge any of them.

"The question is, are the opponents afraid to challenge Errol Spence. He had difficult finding an opponent going into this fight and Mikey Garcia had the balls to stand up and say 'hey, I'm going to challenge you.' And I think with this performance tonight, Errol Spence didn't make it easier on himself to find opponents."
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i don't think it was the size that presented the problem. i think mikey was under the impression he was faster than spence, and could beat him to the punch without taking much damage i think he felt he would out maneuver him. Spence had the faster hand, and he went first every time. he was wayyy busier. it was actually a good fight, cuz mikey was right there, but Errol had the better punch placement and higher work rate
 
Duwop said:
i don't think it was the size that presented the problem. i think mikey was under the impression he was faster than spence, and could beat him to the punch without taking much damage i think he felt he would out maneuver him. Spence had the faster hand, and he went first every time. he was wayyy busier. it was actually a good fight, cuz mikey was right there, but Errol had the better punch placement and higher work rate
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Spence size was a problem but it wasn't as big of a problem folks thought it was going to be because of how Spence fought.

What do you mean by "Mikey was right there"?
 
The size was a tremendous problem and it cut both ways ways in favor for Spence and detriment for Garcia..

Given the fact that Spence is physical consistent puncher that made it doubly treacherous

When Mayweather fought Marquez and Lomanchenko undressed Rigeondeaux it was more of a skill gap that was the intimidation factor than the physicality
 
DMorgan said:
Spence size was a problem but it wasn't as big of a problem folks thought it was going to be because of how Spence fought.

What do you mean by "Mikey was right there"?
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Yeah size was a problem, a major problem imo as like you say because of the way Spence fought... Mikey likes to counter and he kept Mikey well at range and you could also see straight away that Mikey felt Spence's power too, which then made Mikey hesitant to commit even when he managed to get close because of what could come back...

What I think really fckd Mikey more than the hight and reach disadvantage though was the lack of power he carried up, he was pushing his punches out and I dont think his power ever got Spence's respect...


Lurk Rambis said:
No such thing as a moral victory in boxing lol
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There is when you go 2 weight division and servive a 12 round beating, especially when you start off at featherweight lol
 
DMorgan said:
Spence size was a problem but it wasn't as big of a problem folks thought it was going to be because of how Spence fought.

What do you mean by "Mikey was right there"?
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I gave Mikey round two, and I don't think Spence ever had a chance at really hitting the gas for a KO due to how consistent he was fighting back even though he was getting washed...

Like dude never quit.
 
Playmaker88 said:
The size was a tremendous problem and it cut both ways ways in favor for Spence and detriment for Garcia..

Given the fact that Spence is physical consistent puncher that made it doubly treacherous

When Mayweather fought Marquez and Lomanchenko undressed Rigeondeaux it was more of a skill gap that was the intimidation factor than the physicality
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I don't see it like that.

Spence had was faster hands and punched first.

It wasn't like he was just pushing him around with his size. He was clearly out boxing him
 
Water Ur Seeds said:
Yeah size was a problem, a major problem imo as like you say because of the way Spence fought... Mikey likes to counter and he kept Mikey well at range and you could also see straight away that Mikey felt Spence's power too, which then made Mikey hesitant to commit even when he managed to get close because of what could come back...

What I think really fckd Mikey more than the hight and reach disadvantage though was the lack of power he carried up, he was pushing his punches out and I dont think his power ever got Spence's respect...




There is when you go 2 weight division and servive a 12 round beating, especially when you start off at featherweight lol
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The size issue most focused on was weight. That is what I'm talking about when I said size was problem but it wasn't as big of a problem as most thought it would be. I stand by that because Spence could've probably bullied Mikey and got the KO but he didn't.

Easter had an even bigger size advantage(reach & height) over Mikey than Spence did and we all saw the difference in the caliber fighter Spence is in how he beat Mikey and Easter couldn't do shit with Mikey.
 
DMorgan said:
The size issue most focused on was weight. That is what I'm talking about when I said size was problem but it wasn't as big of a problem as most thought it would be. I stand by that because Spence could've probably bullied Mikey and got the KO but he didn't.

Easter had an even bigger size advantage(reach & height) over Mikey than Spence did and we all saw the difference in the caliber fighter Spence is in how he beat Mikey and Easter couldn't do shit with Mikey.
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Ohh ok I get you... I think the big difference in the REJ and Spence fight was like you said the weight, but not just for them but also Mikey... I think Mikey was too heavy against Spence and didnt carry the weight well and couldnt do the things he wanted/could normally do... I said it earlier but his punches were very sluggish with no snap, it was like he was pushing everything out rather than snapping them out... Also REJ was prolly what 10ibs lighter than Spence??? I think Mikey was just getting stung with almost every shot which made him second guess letting his own shots go but also knew he couldnt hurt him even if he did, it was basically high risk/low reward for him to let anything go...
 
https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-unlike-mikey-garcia-amir-khan-intends-win-his-fight--137211

Arum: Unlike Mikey Garcia, Amir Khan Intends To Win His Fight!

On Monday, Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum took aim at four division world champion Mikey Garcia.

This past Saturday night, Garcia suffered a one-sided twelve round decision loss to IBF welterweight champion Errol Spence at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

Garcia, who holds the WBC lightweight title, was moving up by two weight classes to take the fight.

The Spence vs. Garcia showdown headlined a Fox Sports Pay-Per-View event.

Next month, on April 20, Arum's company will stage their own pay-per-view, on rival network ESPN, with Terence Crawford defending his WBO welterweight title against British star Amir Khan, who like Garcia is a massive underdog.

Arum took a big swipe at Garcia's performance and his character, and laid some high praise on Khan.

"Unlike Mikey Garcia, Amir Khan goes into a fight intending to win. His boxing ability, which is phenomenal, could give Terence Crawford fits. He is capable of pulling the upset," Arum stated.

Additionally, Top Rank's top matchmaker Bruce Trampler also took aim at the Spence vs. Garcia bout.

"Amazing how media supports Spence beating [a] blown up lightweight and calling out aging Pac-Man but if Top Tank made Terence Crawford vs Mikey or Manny, we’d be condemned. Crawford’s next challenger Amir Khan would beat Pac or Mikey so media experts, demand Spence vs Crawford," Trampler stated.

"No question, Spence is a hell of a fighter. A big southpaw who can box and punch. All respect to Errol, I’m just saying Terence Crawford would beat him."

Top Rank had at one time promoted Garcia, who broke away from their banner after a two-year legal battle. Since his departure, Garcia has become a much bigger star and recognized as a pound-for-pound fighter.

There are some arguments to be made against Top Rank's position.

Crawford's biggest win is arguably against Yuriokis Gamboa, who like Garcia was fighting two weight divisions higher than he should have been. Khan's ability to beat Garcia or Pacquiao is up for debate. In his last fight with Samuel Vargas in the fall of 2018, the Bolton boxer was dropped and admittedly hurt in the late stages of the contest (Vargas was stopped by Spence in four rounds and stopped by Danny Garcia in seven). Vargas also lost a decision to 37-year-old Luis Collazo this past Sunday in New York City. And Top Rank had attempted to make Crawford-Pacquiao on several occasions without success.
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Water Ur Seeds said:
Give me: Spence v Crawford, thats the real super fight I wanna see...
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That fight is at least 2-3 fights away and that's if Spence can still make 147 in a healthy manner by that time. Crawford might have problems by that time as well as being older than Spence.

The sooner the better but neither side is going to make that fight until all options within their camps have been exhausted.
 
DMorgan said:
That fight is at least 2-3 fights away and that's if Spence can still make 147 in a healthy manner by that time. Crawford might have problems by that time as well as being older than Spence.

The sooner the better but neither side is going to make that fight until all options within their camps have been exhausted.
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Its the one fight I REEEEEEEEEALLLLLYYYY want to see though, its a real super fight...
 
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