OPINION Contradictions and Lies! Exposing the Democratic Party

BlackRain said:
Single issue voters hurt their own causes often because they don't see how shit connects outside of their tunnel vision. They have influence because their single issue allows them to be manipulated easier. Which ks why you're now seeing folks who did vote for trump openly regretting not paying attention to shit he said and/or is doing that actually hurts them. Ie those farmers who voted for him that are on news stations talking about now losing their farms
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Not being single issue voters has actually hurt us more than anything.

If we were single issue voters, then they never would've been able to get us to accept the things on their platform that don't directly benefit us at all.
 
AP4.0 said:
If someone wants lower prices on eggs over the chance to qualify as a first time home buyer and get $20k to help aide in that is someone I simply do not want to be around

So not only are first time home buyers not getting any relief, they are still paying more for eggs and everything else

She didn't win because this nation is overwhelmingly filled with idiots and people who read on a 3rd grade level
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I'll ask why couldn't she lower eggs and put out the 20k?

Eggs were going up under Biden watch if thats case, I would ask why not run on lowering eggs if that's what she heard folks asking for?

I get the frustration but some of the stupidity falls on Kamala brotha and not giving what the ppl want...houses and lower cost in eggs
 
SeaSnake said:
Why you so damn ignorant? You pretty much saying gay dudes kept black men out the party. It’s not that many gay democrats
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What I'm saying, if you step back and look over the years on how the democratic party has evolved...
It's geared toward black women and gays vs black men

During the Clinton campaign, John Kerry, this wasnt the case.

Over the last 8 years the party has shifted towards black women and gays..

Nothing in regards to strong black men or black family at that...man, woman and child.

Even if I was to argue that black women are the main supporters, they are still at the bottom...I feel that the party has divided the black man and black woman focusing more so on black women pain and struggles only to use that to gain funding to help out other groups...white women...

OK. Black women are the biggest supporters but they get the least from the party. Again, using black women pain for gain...as I stated the democratics use black men deaths for gain in which helps out other races.


Just sit back and peep game.

Even with Kamala campaign at the very last minute she had to include something or speak on something towards black men after folks called her out..

Even black men say that the party only focuses on gays, and black women but at the end, black women still don't get anything.

Thats all im saying. You can believe it or not
 
BlackRain said:
Single issue voters hurt their own causes often because they don't see how shit connects outside of their tunnel vision. They have influence because their single issue allows them to be manipulated easier. Which ks why you're now seeing folks who did vote for trump openly regretting not paying attention to shit he said and/or is doing that actually hurts them. Ie those farmers who voted for him that are on news stations talking about now losing their farms
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Exactly this. People who are reparations only will find themselves in the position a lot of these MAGA people are in now. I can’t understand how people would willingly get fleeced with a reparations promise but in the end lose much more.

Which brings me back to my $2k reparations for $3k in increased costs argument. That’s exactly what’s happening to MAGA. They got their abortion ruling, got no men in women’s sports, and mass deportations, all things that didn’t effect them personally, in exchange for higher healthcare costs, less government benefits, and a redistribution of wealth to the rich.

That’s what we call hustling backwards.
 
SeaSnake said:
Who is nobody cuz everybody I know wanted those things
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Again, I am not telling you who to vote for or not anybody on this board as a matter of fact...all I saying is that the Dems will have to gain folks to see their vision.
Those old plays that they are used to using are not working anymore

Black folks want something for their vote and more black folks want checks...single issue voter...just like folks vote on guns, abortion issue only., these folks, black are looking hard at folks who want their vote.

And I conclude by saying that Kamala, is not using grassroots...Tariq talking points...its a no way out move.

Folks are seeing as her being fake and its their last hope to save the party.

Thats all im saying...how will this party gain new voters
 
deadeye said:
Funny thing is, single issue voters have the most influence.

Simply because politicians can't finesse them out of their position.


Take abortion for example.

Anyone on either side of the issue........whether they're pro-abortion or anti-abortion........they're not gonna care what any politician has to say except for their position on abortion.


Same can also be said for guns rights...........LGBTQ/gender issues........immigration............etc.
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And they got it at what cost?
 
TheNightKing said:
Exactly this. People who are reparations only will find themselves in the position a lot of these MAGA people are in now. I can’t understand how people would willingly get fleeced with a reparations promise but in the end lose much more.

Which brings me back to my $2k reparations for $3k in increased costs argument. That’s exactly what’s happening to MAGA. They got their abortion ruling, got no men in women’s sports, and mass deportations, all things that didn’t effect them personally, in exchange for higher healthcare costs, less government benefits, and a redistribution of wealth to the rich.

That’s what we call hustling backwards.
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Its the same with people who vote for abortions or not.
Gun laws, immigration.

Its more so this is my top thing on my list, you as a candidate need to honor it and if you can't then we have nothing else to talk about...thats what the landscape of politics are shaping up to be.

You can shame it but thats what folks are starting to be on...especially black folks
 
Knock_Twice said:
Its the same with people who vote for abortions or not.
Gun laws, immigration.

Its more so this is my top thing on my list, you as a candidate need to honor it and if you can't then we have nothing else to talk about...thats what the landscape of politics are shaping up to be.

You can shame it but thats what folks are starting to be on...especially black folks
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Again

If there are 10 things on your list and they can realistically give you 6

You are pissy about one of the 4 they didn't

This is the issue

Trump would've given you 0/10

So you don't vote for him cause you not getting anything but you don't vote for Kamala cause she didn't give you one or more of the 4

Voting for her would've given you 6 while others also benefit but you don't want that. You want something exclusive for you
 
TheNightKing said:
Exactly this. People who are reparations only will find themselves in the position
AP4.0 said:
Again

If there are 10 things on your list and they can realistically give you 6

You are pissy about one of the 4 they didn't

This is the issue

Trump would've given you 0/10

So you don't vote for him cause you not getting anything but you don't vote for Kamala cause she didn't give you one or more of the 4

Voting for her would've given you 6 while others also benefit but you don't want that. You want something exclusive for you
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Yes black ppl want something exclusive for them.

But with your example, she had 10 items on the table, those 10 items were not what folks wanted.

Trump, 0 items and he won in a land slide.

That is an issue with her items, the items on the board weren't good enough.

Maybe if she cut the list down to 1 item in which black votes now want, maybe she will have a chance to win

Folks will have to make their list on what is at the top of black folks list if they want their vote and at the top for most...are Reparations..
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Yes black ppl want something exclusive for them.

But with your example, she had 10 items on the table, those 10 items were not what folks wanted.

Trump, 0 items and he won in a land slide.

That is an issue with her items, the items on the board weren't good enough.

Maybe if she cut the list down to 1 item in which black votes now want, maybe she will have a chance to win

Folks will have to make their list on what is at the top of black folks list if they want their vote and at the top for most...are Reparations..
 
AP4.0 said:
Again

If there are 10 things on your list and they can realistically give you 6

You are pissy about one of the 4 they didn't

This is the issue

Trump would've given you 0/10

So you don't vote for him cause you not getting anything but you don't vote for Kamala cause she didn't give you one or more of the 4

Voting for her would've given you 6 while others also benefit but you don't want that. You want something exclusive for you
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All I'm saying as I told Sea...vote for whoever you want...
The dems will have to work very very hard to get folks to support them without giving them something exclusive for them.

What i do see going forward also is folks really doing a fine comb sweep on things that are being offered to them.

A lot of checks and balances will now be put in place to make sure that such things that are offered, they are legit and not geared towards a group.

But again, the next elections will be very interesting to watch.

Im curious to how the Dems gain voters
 
Knock_Twice said:
All I'm saying as I told Sea...vote for whoever you want...
The dems will have to work very very hard to get folks to support them without giving them something exclusive for them.

What i do see going forward also is folks really doing a fine comb sweep on things that are being offered to them.

A lot of checks and balances will now be put in place to make sure that such things that are offered, they are legit and not geared towards a group.

But again, the next elections will be very interesting to watch.

Im curious to how the Dems gain voters
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Dawg

Stop talking to me like I'm some lil nigga

I know I can vote for who I want. I don't need your permission to do that

But again, even in my hyperbole, you still saying no one wanted those 6 things that she was hypothetically offering and that's just simply not true.

So this my last example. White people will vote against their interest to ensure their survival. You can't say they didn't want WIC when they are the biggest recipients of it. You can't say they don't want food stamps because they are the biggest recipients of it. But they have been convinced that if anyone else gets these benefits, the country will run out of money.

If illegals have these jobs, they will be out of jobs. So Kamala has 6 things they either want or benefit from but cause Trump and other idiots tell them America first, they will just give their rights away to spite everyone else having those same rights

This is why she lost. It wasn't cause she ran a campaign on things people didn't want. It's cause we have a country of idiots that can't read past a 3rd grade level.
 
Funny thing is...there was nothing tangible that Trump offered Black people that caused an uptick in support for him. So even the idea that something must be offered specifically to gain a vote is flawed. Quite often people vote against something rather than vote for something...and alot of people voted against Democrats rather than the actual policies being run on. Because any casual reading of things would tell you, as has come true, that under a trump administration shit would get worse for Black people.
 
AP4.0 said:
Dawg

Stop talking to me like I'm some lil nigga

I know I can vote for who I want. I don't need your permission to do that

But again, even in my hyperbole, you still saying no one wanted those 6 things that she was hypothetically offering and that's just simply not true.

So this my last example. White people will vote against their interest to ensure their survival. You can't say they didn't want WIC when they are the biggest recipients of it. You can't say they don't want food stamps because they are the biggest recipients of it. But they have been convinced that if anyone else gets these benefits, the country will run out of money.

If illegals have these jobs, they will be out of jobs. So Kamala has 6 things they either want or benefit from but cause Trump and other idiots tell them America first, they will just give their rights away to spite everyone else having those same rights

This is why she lost. It wasn't cause she ran a campaign on things people didn't want. It's cause we have a country of idiots that can't read past a 3rd grade level.
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I am not trying to lil dawg you, what i want is not to think i am trying sway any voters for voting for the dems. I am just stating that the dems will have a hard time getting new voters.

With the 6 items. Yes ppl wanted those items like you stated, what I am saying those 6 items wasnt good enough to get her the W.

She should have had better items on the board to get more votes is what I am saying. The items on the board wasnt good enough for some other folks.

Just like you was cool with the 6, there were ppl who wasnt cool with the 6 items.

Come on now AP, you calling those ppl idiots ? Lol.. thats low brotha.

You will need those same idiots to flip though.

All I am saying is black voters, most of them are wanting something for their vote. The dems will have to listen to the Tariqs and others to win back black voters.
 
BlackRain said:
Funny thing is...there was nothing tangible that Trump offered Black people that caused an uptick in support for him. So even the idea that something must be offered specifically to gain a vote is flawed. Quite often people vote against something rather than vote for something...and alot of people voted against Democrats rather than the actual policies being run on. Because any casual reading of things would tell you, as has come true, that under a trump administration shit would get worse for Black people.
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I dont think you will have black voters rushing to polls to vote for a democrat if they are not offering what they want

This is the new voting code.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I am not trying to lil dawg you, what i want is not to think i am trying sway any voters for voting for the dems. I am just stating that the dems will have a hard time getting new voters.

With the 6 items. Yes ppl wanted those items like you stated, what I am saying those 6 items wasnt good enough to get her the W.

She should have had better items on the board to get more votes is what I am saying. The items on the board wasnt good enough for some other folks.

Just like you was cool with the 6, there were ppl who wasnt cool with the 6 items.

Come on now AP, you calling those ppl idiots ? Lol.. thats low brotha.

You will need those same idiots to flip though.

All I am saying is black voters, most of them are wanting something for their vote. The dems will have to listen to the Tariqs and others to win back black voters.
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If you 40+ yrs old and can't read at a 3rd grade level, in 2026, then you are an idiot and probably raising idiot kids

This not Jim Crow era. People not dropping out of 5th grade to go work
 
AP4.0 said:
If you 40+ yrs old and can't read at a 3rd grade level, in 2026, then you are an idiot and probably raising idiot kids

This not Jim Crow era. People not dropping out of 5th grade to go work
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Come on brotha.
You pushing hard brotha. But I aint mad at it.
 
AP4.0 said:
This is how you get got in a deal cause you can't understand the terms you are agreeing to

We keep telling people to read but they can't

So they get caught up in fake news cycles to do all the heavy lifting for them
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There was no way you looked at Kamala and Trump and said his policies were better lol. Your point is very valid.
 
Knock_Twice said:
The folks that she needed votes for her to win didn't want it.
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All the black people did lol yall just forget how racist this country is and I def feel she should’ve had a year to run and not 6 months

But you can’t say people ole don’t want houses when people want houses
 
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