OPINION Contradictions and Lies! Exposing the Democratic Party

[AP4.0]

What I'm saying is, if a women is asked, "What's the most important thing that you wanna get from your vote" and she says abortion rights etc

Would that be her being on the single-issue bandwagon?

Would she be looking for a candidate who addresses her most important thing?


If a man is asked, what is the most important thing you want to come outta this election and he says immigration laws etc. All they care about is these single issues.

They don't care about wars, etc etc like you and BR are trying to make everyone care about

I don't understand why you and others are trying to make folks move the way you all move and all they care about is their issue, for their vote.


What is so wrong with these 2 individuals wanting this action to be granted to them for their vote?

Ok much better explanation

If abortion is her most important issue, cool, but is she withholding her vote? I don't think she will. This also applies to women who want to be mothers when there are women who have no interest in being mothers

So it does back to the women who aren't interested in being mothers, do they just don't care cause they aren't impacted or so they show up to support all women in an act of solidarity for the greater good of women

 

[Knock_Twice]

If abortion is the only thing on the ballot, then it's a single issue but I don't think it's ever been.

The supreme courts have ruled on this single issue but I don't think voters have

And I think you are conflating the intent of that question.

There is no way to be a single issue voter as BR just explained.

You yourself are many things

Man
Black
Father
Son
Etc...

All these categories can impact you at and given time in your life. Some all the time, others may just be specific to one of those. So how can you just reduce your existence to one of them?

Are you only going to vote on issues that impact men? But what about black men? What about black men who are fathers? But what if you're a black man who doesn't have any children?

Some voters won't tend to care about every issue or in your last example the 10 items and that's fine.

Some votes may care about the 10 items,

And there are voters who only care about 1 issue. Health Insurance, Immigration, Abortion and I and trying to understand, why is this an actual problem with you 2?

Folks been voting like this since the beginning of time.

We do that now on the local scene, governor race, mayor's race, schoolboard etc. Most see something that sticks out or they have in mind what they want and they see if a candidate will address that concern, and they vote like that.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Ok much better explanation

If abortion is her most important issue, cool, but is she withholding her vote? I don't think she will. This also applies to women who want to be mothers when there are women who have no interest in being mothers

So it does back to the women who aren't interested in being mothers, do they just don't care cause they aren't impacted or so they show up to support all women in an act of solidarity for the greater

I'm not understanding your reply, let me try and be more direct:

Are you getting upset with this women's group who chose to only want candidates to address their concerns about Abortion? and if neither candidate addresses their concerns, they decide to withhold their vote or vote for a lesser candidate of the 2?

 

[AP4.0]

Some voters won't tend to care about every issue or in your last example the 10 items and that's fine.

Some votes may care about the 10 items,

And there are voters who only care about 1 issue. Health Insurance, Immigration, Abortion and I and trying to understand, why is this an actual problem with you 2?

Folks been voting like this since the beginning of time.

We do that now on the local scene, governor race, mayor's race, schoolboard etc. Most see something that sticks out or they have in mind what they want and they see if a candidate will address that concern, and they vote like that.

You keep adding qualifiers when I've answered this question several times

ALL of those things impact you. Some more than others

 

[Knock_Twice]

Ok much better explanation

If abortion is her most important issue, cool, but is she withholding her vote? I don't think she will. This also applies to women who want to be mothers when there are women who have no interest in being mothers

So it does back to the women who aren't interested in being mothers, do they just don't care cause they aren't impacted or so they show up to support all women in an act of solidarity for the greater good of women

If a voter is concern about immigration laws and both candidates are speaking against what this voter is seeking, this is the most important thing for this voter, my question to you is why do you look down or outcast this person because this person is only concerned about the immigration laws, whether their family will be deported or not?

This is a single issue to this person/woman.

That's why Deadeye made the comment and I'm stating to you, there are voters in this world who only cares about things that are important to them. Not everybody move like you and BR and the way they move or vote or look at the election shouldn't be criticized.

 

[AP4.0]

I'm not understanding your reply, let me try and be more direct:

Are you getting upset with this women's group who chose to only want candidates to address their concerns about Abortion? and if neither candidate addresses their concerns, they decide to withhold their vote or vote for a lesser candidate of the 2?

A woman is much more than her ability to give birth so if she is withholding her vote on the sole issue of abortion while other medical issues are being addressed then she is a dumb ass

Btw, in your ex, are these women pro choice or pro life?

 

[AP4.0]

If a voter is concern about immigration laws and both candidates are speaking against what this voter is seeking, this is the most important thing for this voter, my question to you is why do you look down or outcast this person because this person is only concerned about the immigration laws, whether their family will be deported or not?

This is a single issue to this person/woman.

That's why Deadeye made the comment and I'm stating to you, there are voters in this world who only cares about things that are important to them. Not everybody move like you and BR and the way they move or vote or look at the election shouldn't be criticized.

And this is the problem which we've been hoping you would've realized by now

 

[Knock_Twice]

You keep adding qualifiers when I've answered this question several timesI

ALL of those things impact you. Some more than others

Impact is not the same as important to me.

Gas impacts me but if my family is about to get deported, I'm not thinking about gas prices at the time, I'm trying to see how things will look in the future for my s/o or children, cousins, aunts, etc.

I'm not understanding why this single-issue voter needs to be called out. They don't care about the things that you may care about, alll they care about at the time is their family being deported.

 

[Knock_Twice]

A woman is much more than her ability to give birth so if she is withholding her vote on the sole issue of abortion while other medical issues are being addressed then she is a dumb ass

Btw, in your ex, are these women pro choice or pro life?

You are being inconsiderate right now brotha

 

[Knock_Twice]

And this is the problem which we've been hoping you would've realized by now

It's not a problem to me, I understand that one may only want to vote to help out their situation in regard to immigration.

I understand one may only want to vote in regard to abortion laws

I understand that there are many single-issue voters.

Town Hall, folks are asked what is the most important issue for you. As I stated 60 mins does a special and ask folks what is the most important thing that you wanna see come from this election

I understand CNN and others take a poll on what's important to them and what are they voting for.

 

[AP4.0]

You got it brother

 

[Knock_Twice]

You got it brother

I think you forgot or maybe need to do some research on how people vote in this country and have been voting in this country.

The people in this country and in other countries have always had single-issue voters, way back then.

Folks vote for what is the most important to them, not everybody else.

Going back to Kamala's video, that's why she said, Get Yours, get what you want out of your vote.

And to criticize that is crazy or to expect voters to vote on 10 items is not even smart. Voters never voted on 10 items ever.

 

[Knock_Twice]

And that's why I said that her policies kept folks on the couch or had folks flipping. Some of her polices weren't important to these "single issue voters"



Voters are single issue voters, most vote on the things that are important to them. They don't care about eggs going up, hthey don't care about gas prices, this voter wants to know if she can get running water or abortion laws etc (this is just an example)

That's why I said, Kamala policies weren't good enough, I have houses, I don't need a house. I'm not a 1st time buyer so that doesn't affect me, I don't think 20k is enough anyways in this economy to get a house, also, I think it's some red tape behind it, or the qualifying process may be difficult because I know how these lenders move and how paperwork is written when buying a house

This 20k is not important to me. Everybody doesn't want a house, or they see that maybe the 20k comes with a lot of static, so in my case, let me see what else she has on the list that is important to me. She doesn't have anything on the list that I, myself is important to ME and My family. Nothing and I felt like the folks who sat on the couch had the same thoughts or close to it

 

[BlackRain]

And that's why I said that her policies kept folks on the couch or had folks flipping. Some of her polices weren't important to these "single issue voters"



Voters are single issue voters, most vote on the things that are important to them. They don't care about eggs going up, hthey don't care about gas prices, this voter wants to know if she can get running water or abortion laws etc (this is just an example)

That's why I said, Kamala policies weren't good enough, I have houses, I don't need a house. I'm not a 1st time buyer so that doesn't affect me, I don't think 20k is enough anyways in this economy to get a house, also, I think it's some red tape behind it, or the qualifying process may be difficult.

This 20k is not important to me. Everybody doesn't want houses or they see that maybe the 20k comes with a lot of static.

Its not important to you but it may be important to someone else. And that single issue that you may choose to focus on can affect somebody else's single issue. Or it could affect something else that affects you. The after effects of these policies dont exist in a vacuum. They affect other things as well. Nobody is saying single issue voters don't exist. We are saying it's not the smartest way to go about things because you will ignore other things that may hurt or have the potential to help you because you got tunnel vision on one thing. And politicians exploit that ignorance.

You don't care about a house? Cool. You care about the property value of your home or land you own? Care about the quality of your neighborhood? Well guess what else would affect that? More people being able to afford a home. Somebody is anti abortion? Guess what would affect that? People being able to have a decent place to raise their kid. All of these things intersect in some way. So a single issue voter may only focus on their issue to the detriment of other things they may also want.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Its not important to you but it may be important to someone else. And that single issue that you may choose to focus on can affect somebody else's single issue. Or it could affect something else that affects you. The after effects of these policies dont exist in a vacuum. They affect other things as well. Nobody is saying single issue voters don't exist. We are saying it's not the smartest way to go about things because you will ignore other things that may hurt or have the potential to help you because you got tunnel vision on one thing. And politicians exploit that ignorance.

You don't care about a house? Cool. You care about the property value of your home or land you own? Care about the quality of your neighborhood? Well guess what else would affect that? More people being able to afford a home. Somebody is anti abortion? Guess what would affect that? People being able to have a decent place to raise their kid. All of these things intersect in some way. So a single issue voter may only focus on their issue to the detriment of other things they may also want.

Well, If we are talking about 20k, that's not enough money to afford a home on a 250-300k that's not even the 20% you need to get started on getting the house, if you wanna live in a decent neighborhood. Also, just because a person can afford a home doesn't mean the neighborhood will be nice or the property value will increase. We see that now with AP's issue in his area. He's trying to move out as I'm typing this reply.


Also, I know in this country majority of the people only care about themselves and their families, thus me understanding that they are single issue voters. Those idiots who you all downplay, I'm not looking out for them. My vote only concerns what's important to me and my family.

If I use the logic that you and AP pitch, I'd be looking out for Trump base, and I know dayum sure that they wouldn't look out for me. That's how folks are moving nowadays.

But as I stated, this country has always and will always have single-issue voters.

 

[ChicagoFigure]

Some of u are never gonna come to the realization that Kamala was just not a popular enough candidate for a variety of factors, some not even being her fault. Biden's popularity was in the shitter and she came up n told us she would be just like him.

With that said, Dems have a great chance to come back into power bc, as usual, they don't have to offer anything drastic, just sit and let the Republicans fuck it up.

 

[BlackRain]

Well, If we are talking about 20k, that's not enough money to afford a home on a 250-300k that's not even the 20% you need to get started on getting the house, if you wanna live in a decent neighborhood. Also, just because a person can afford a home doesn't mean the neighborhood will be nice or the property value will increase. We see that now with AP's issue in his area. He's trying to move out as I'm typing this reply.


Also, I know in this country majority of the people only care about themselves and their families, thus me understanding that they are single issue voters. Those idiots who you all downplay, I'm not looking out for them. My vote only concerns what's important to me and my family.

If I use the logic that you and AP pitch, I'd be looking out for Trump base, and I know dayum sure that they wouldn't look out for me. That's how folks are moving nowadays.

But as I stated, this country has always and will always have single-issue voters.

Looking out for yourself means looking at more than 1 issue and thats the logic we are using. Again despite you trying to rewrite what is being said there is no downplaying of single issue voters. It's an acknowledgement of them to say that their methods aren't having the overall effects they want. Are some issues gonna be more important to you than others? Of course..not 1 person is saying everything is on the same level. All that's being said is that when you reduce your own vote to 1 issue you are intentionally shorting yourself.

 

[AP4.0]

Some of u are never gonna come to the realization that Kamala was just not a popular enough candidate for a variety of factors, some not even being her fault. Biden's popularity was in the shitter and she came up n told us she would be just like him.

With that said, Dems have a great chance to come back into power bc, as usual, they don't have to offer anything drastic, just sit and let the Republicans fuck it up.

I agree with you which I feel like I've been trying to communicate to knock

They weren't voting for her anyway despite her policies

 

[ChicagoFigure]

I agree with you which I feel like I've been trying to communicate to knock

They weren't voting for her anyway despite her policies

Main issue I take with your argument is the "3rd grade level" shit is ignoring a lot of other things that actually is her and the Dem parties fault.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Looking out for yourself means looking at more than 1 issue and thats the logic we are using. Again despite you trying to rewrite what is being said there is no downplaying of single issue voters. It's an acknowledgement of them to say that their methods aren't having the overall effects they want. Are some issues gonna be more important to you than others? Of course..not 1 person is saying everything is on the same level. All that's being said is that when you reduce your own vote to 1 issue you are intentionally shorting yourself.

I think you challenged dead-eye's response to single-issue voters. AP had an issue with it, and Night said something along the lines as being crazy.

You 3 are not in favor for single voter issues. I am not re-writing anything, the last 3 pages were me "pro" and explaining to you 3 that single voter issues has always been the standard in this country and in other countries.

If you're criticizng their method, then you are not a fan of single voter issues Lol. Brotha do you hear yourself double talking. That's not me re-writing anything.

I'm not trying to insult you, but you 3 are not fans of what most people do in this country and that's ok. I and Deadeye in this convo on this topic were simply saying voters don't think like you 3 think.

I provided many examples. An immigration law may hit closer to home to one vs another one. Their concern about other stuff takes the backseat. This is what you 3 fail to understand. Everybody's picks are not the same, people have different picks for their own reasons, not for the greater of anybody else.

All you all are saying is based on feelings. A person having their child not deported is not shorting themselves? lol the fuck.

That person wants their child and by them focusing on immigration laws etc, they have that right, they don't give a shit about what else is on the table, they want their child to not be deport or whatever. That's fair

That's how voters have always voted brotha and will always vote.