To be honest.
Sometimes it’s really that simple but it’s more of a jealousy thing
It can be from jealousy
We both right brother
To be honest.
Sometimes it’s really that simple but it’s more of a jealousy thing
I bet it's an American thing more than a Black thing. It's just easier to notice black on black hate when hate is all you expect towards black people. Even non-white people expect other non-white people to have some sort of reservations towards Black people. Black hate is cultural as much as it is systemic at this point.
Racism is not an exclusively American idea, though we do it with such a style that racism has become a facet of success. Turn your nose up, hate a nigga, feel triumphant.
But I don't feel like I see white people doing as much of this specific type of hate towards black people. They're much less interested in judging a black comedic actor for wearing a dress. I hear much less from them about Shannon Sharpe being gay. And the same people the black community may call corny/sellout white people have no problem with. Shit, those terms are often directed at black people that white people seem super comfortable around.
Capitalism and racism are at the least, two of the foundations of the U.S. The only reason we probably aren't pure capitalists (or free) is because of that racist foundation. This requires that the government systematically uphold and provide advantages in favor of the dominant group. Though because we are capitalists, that means other people can buy into the dominant's group success; not be apart of it, but buy into it, like stock I guess. Fast forward that sentiment over time, between the hundreds of years of systemic advantages and shaping what success looks like (and does NOT look like)...you don't need white people to say anything racist ever again for racism to still be able to thrive. Since its embedded, all of the non-White people believe that success has a lot to do with buying into Whiteness, including the cultural tradition of hating black and anything challenging White hegemony/supremacy.But I don't feel like I see white people doing as much of this specific type of hate towards black people. They're much less interested in judging a black comedic actor for wearing a dress. I hear much less from them about Shannon Sharpe being gay. And the same people the black community may call corny/sellout white people have no problem with. Shit, those terms are often directed at black people that white people seem super comfortable around.
Because losers don’t know what it takes to win. To losers, what it takes to win looks like submission, only winners know, that winning takes sacrifice. And that those aren’t two of the same thing.
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Have you ever thought about it like this:
Black people in America are dominated by White people with money.
Black celebrities are paid by White people with money.
Black celebrities are put on pedestal and given an informal political dominance over Black people only because they have money and fame.
Lol, money and fame is why politicians go sit down and talk to Charlamagne about the plight of Black people and not a fucking economists or a sociologist that specialize in wealth to address our issues.
We know these celebrities stooges and stooges get mocked.
This tread really promoting stereotypes. This the type of premise white people pretending to be black make and reply to on reddit or twitter. And the black person they use as an example is always a disliked coon.
There is a weird sort of "they must have done something compromising" attitude around the success of Black people from some. The thing is, and this came up in another thread about gangster culture, is that this shit is not exclusive to Black people. It just seems bigger because by the numbers there's fewer Black success stories on the scale we're talking about but the same questioning if someone compromised their ethics or morals for success exists across all groups. And it usually boils down to people underestimating themselves so they project that onto others. They think if they couldn't be successful due to whatever obstacles then the only way anybody else could do it is to do some foul shit.
Reread what I said again, maybe this time you wont be in your feelings and you'll see I wasnt talking about you. I was talking about what they do on reddit/twitterI know right? I've only heard white people say shit like "crabs in a bucket". The other people that have noticed this, and commented on why it happens are my aliases.
Who are the disliked coons I've used for examples?
This is some ignorant (and common) shit that holds us back. A black person pointing out shit we as a people need to work on in regards to how we treat each other (like tearing each other down for no reason but being successful), is seen as coon-ish?
Mature a bit, and open up to self reflection and growth instead of attacking it.
There is a weird sort of "they must have done something compromising" attitude around the success of Black people from some. The thing is, and this came up in another thread about gangster culture, is that this shit is not exclusive to Black people. It just seems bigger because by the numbers there's fewer Black success stories on the scale we're talking about but the same questioning if someone compromised their ethics or morals for success exists across all groups. And it usually boils down to people underestimating themselves so they project that onto others. They think if they couldn't be successful due to whatever obstacles then the only way anybody else could do it is to do some foul shit.
Honestly, I only think that applies to Black celebrities... Entertainers and sports figures. Black businessmen/women really don't get that put on them. Years ago, maybe '91 or '92, there was an article in The Source celebrating a cat from Detroit that became a millionaire basically just cutting hair and properly investing his money. When "The Internet" first really popped, there were plenty of stories of Black entrepreneurs that started businesses in web design, some were still high school teenagers. Lots of success stories about Black owned businesses across all sectors but only the entertainers and, to a lesser degree, sports figures get that "he/she had to do XYZ negative thing to get there".
I think it is mostly towards celebrities, but I'm not sure if that's the reason. I'm speaking for myself, but athletes/ celebrities (or people within those industries) make up most of the very wealthy black people I can name. And we can't speak on who we don't know. Like I'm sure there are black people doing well in pharmaceuticals, but I don't know them, and I can't speak on who I don't know.
So ya, we don't hear people bashing Kenneth Frazier, the CEO of Merck (I looked it up after writing that last paragraph), but is it because his profession gives him a pass? Or because people don't know who he is?
Reread what I said again, maybe this time you wont be in your feelings and you'll see I wasnt talking about you. I was talking about what they do on reddit/twitter
Every community has people that hate for no reason, but some how people love acting like its huge epidemic, only in the black community & thats whats holding us back. Thats nonsense and largely a distraction to shift the blame from other factors thats really hurting us.
Black people in America are not a monolithic group & we need to stop acting like/letting people treat us like we're one
I think it is mostly towards celebrities, but I'm not sure if that's the reason. I'm speaking for myself, but athletes/ celebrities (or people within those industries) make up most of the very wealthy black people I can name. And we can't speak on who we don't know. Like I'm sure there are black people doing well in pharmaceuticals, but I don't know them, and I can't speak on who I don't know.
So ya, we don't hear people bashing Kenneth Frazier, the CEO of Merck (I looked it up after writing that last paragraph), but is it because his profession gives him a pass? Or because people don't know who he is?
Re-read it. Still sounds like a shot, but if you say it wasn't I'll take you at your word.
And I didn't say it was THE thing holding us back, but I think it's an issue. I still don't think other races flock to it like we do. For example Orlando Brown, Kanye, Antonio Brown, and (imo to a lesser degree) Katt Williams have mental issues. So why are we still inviting them on larger platforms to make outlandish negative claims about other black people? Because it gets lots of views for shows that target a black audience.
I could just be missing it, but I don't see white, Asian, Hispanic, etc folks doing the same.
I'm not being funny... I'm really asking... can you think of examples in other races? Who's another race's Orlando Brown?