It's thought control and that, by itself, is harmful.
You're telling people what they can and cannot think and, ultimately, say. Sometimes we gotta hear what's on people's minds whether we like it or not. That's the only way to the truth, and the best way to find a vector to approach the issues a person or group of people has with one another. Tip toe around it and you're not getting to the heart of the problem. Crush people for speaking their minds and they will find an echo chamber where the problems are only amplified. Let them speak, then find a way to educate them if you feel they're out of line.
I dont think PC is bad.
The problem is always the same. People rather tell a person they have nothing to be offended by rather than listen to and understand why the person is offended.
Shit happens all over the place.
Woman gets offended. A man gets mad and tells her there was nothing to be offended by rather than try to understand why she was offended.
A gay person says something is offensive. And the straight person gets mad and say there was nothing to be offended by rather than try to understand.
The list goes on and on and on.
A person says something is offensive to their religion, and the offender explains to the person why its not offensive rather than listen and learn.
To me the worst thing you can tell a person that is offended is the shit was not offensive.
A racist rather tell a person why they werent being racist rather than listen and learn why their actions are racist.
Maybe its the human condition. Idk.
I just know usually the person thats against something being PC is in the wrong.
I only ever hear white ppl cry about this so my first inclination is to think it's some shit they made up.
I never know what specifically they talkin about either it's always some vague shit.
That's all well and good, but there are cases where you ask for elaboration and you get nothing back other than "because I'm offended". Ok, but why? Explain it so I understand. "Because I am and that's all you need to know".
And this is usually the case, especially when it comes to these new kids that find a reason to be offended at every little thing you say but can't vocalize why it's offensive and how it pertains to them.
That's all well and good, but there are cases where you ask for elaboration and you get nothing back other than "because I'm offended". Ok, but why? Explain it so I understand. "Because I am and that's all you need to know".
And this is usually the case, especially when it comes to these new kids that find a reason to be offended at every little thing you say but can't vocalize why it's offensive and how it pertains to them.
Nah I understand that too. Too many times you try to explain to mfers why they wrong for them to just be like nah you just sensitive.
You an example fam. No offense. But you went back and forth on some topic or another with every poster here, and never changed your mind once.
You not gonna change your mind about this either.
So at some point, mfers done explained shit to so many people, that if you still asking why shit is offensive you never gonna get it. So mfers get tired of explaining and be like it just is.
I know what it is but I only hear it used because somebody wants to be patted on the back for saying wild shit. It gives this energyUsually, saying being PC is wrong is a form of keeping power.
For example, men are like why cant I sniff my coworkers hair at work and tell her it smells good? That shit is a compliment. Being PC is ruining the work place.
Thats because the status quo is changing in the favor of woman and men are not able to be as dominant as they were. This threatens men and so they blame shit being PC and start saying being PC is wrong in an attempt to keep power.
Apply that to white people and it makes sense that they hate PCness the most. They have all the power and the status quo is changing and they not allow to say racist shit just to say it anymore and so they stay complaining about how political correctness is ruining society
Independent of everything else, I honestly donāt think youāre giving enough credit to niggas maybe not having the language to accurately describe why theyāre feeling what theyāre feeling o why their offended.
And I donāt wanna put words in your mouth, it honestly seems like you feel that if niggas canāt verbalize to you why they are offended, then theyāre not really offended or that theyāre over reacting.
Thatās a really dangerous mentality to have.
If you can tell me you're offended, you can tell me why. I don't think that's too much to ask or even slightly unreasonable.
If I tell you I'm offended, best believe I have a reason at the ready. I had a discussion about the word "midget" with a woman who, although she didn't personally take offense to it, explained that others with dwarfism could and why. Good discussion, and although it slips out from time to time (I'm damned near 50, cut me some slack), I make a conscious effort not to use it.
That's what I expect. Saying that someone may not have the language to describe something is a cop out. It can be explained in simple terms and in many cases it's probably best to explain it in simple terms. I once witnessed a kid with Down's Syndrome explain to an old cat why calling his group "retarded kids" when asking their teacher about them was offensive. If he could do it with his own limited vocab, I can't really excuse anyone else's inability to tell me why they're offended.
This entire post is a shining, shimmering, spot on example of the type of arrogance I mentioned in my very first post in this thread.
Double salute.
Am I arrogant for expecting someone to explain something or are they arrogant for believing they don't have to?
One has an overly inflated sense of self importance when they believe they never have to explain anything to anyone. That, fam, is pure arrogance.
Youre mistaken. Youāre not arrogant for expecting a person to explain how they feel. I never said that. Thatās not where the arrogance lies.
Im 100% with you on wanting to understand why a person is offended by something. How can you predict what sorts of things will offend a nigga and try to avoid them if they wonāt or canāt tell you why that thing offends them? I get it.
You wanna understand the shit.
Nothing wrong with that.
The arrogance comes in when it SEEMS like, if you dont understand it, you donāt see it as valid or the personās feeling being worthy of consideration or that theyāre not really offended.
Thereās mad shit that I donāt understand. Thereās mad people who are offended by mad shit that I just donāt understand. But...everything aināt for me to understand. I donāt really feel like me understanding a position is the litmus test or whether or not that position should be taken seriously.
Again, I donāt wanna out words in your mouth. But thatās how it comes off.
I never said that. All I'm asking for is a simple explanation that goes beyond "because I am".
Having said that, if you want it to be taken seriously, you should be able to explain why something is offensive to you (even in simplistic terms), otherwise folks are going to look at you skeptically and I think that's a natural reaction to someone being unwilling or unable to explain their position. It's not about MY understanding at all, it's about an unwillingness for someone to explain why something is offensive to them.
Am I arrogant for expecting someone to explain something or are they arrogant for believing they don't have to?
One has an overly inflated sense of self importance when they believe they never have to explain anything to anyone. That, fam, is pure arrogance.
I never said you said that. That's why I said it SEEMS like that.
Then...you went and said that. Lol. The bolded seems to indicate that you don't take a person's concerns seriously if they are unable to explain why they find it offensive.
Let's stop dancing around the 'I didn't say that!' circle. I'm blatantly asking you:
Do you take people's concerns about being offended seriously if they are unable to explain to you why they are offended?
It's thought control and that, by itself, is harmful.
You're telling people what they can and cannot think and, ultimately, say. Sometimes we gotta hear what's on people's minds whether we like it or not. That's the only way to the truth, and the best way to find a vector to approach the issues a person or group of people has with one another. Tip toe around it and you're not getting to the heart of the problem. Crush people for speaking their minds and they will find an echo chamber where the problems are only amplified. Let them speak, then find a way to educate them if you feel they're out of line.
I know what it is but I only hear it used because somebody wants to be patted on the back for saying wild shit. It gives this energy
Lol like fam nobody stopping you from saying whatever you wana say or think. But don't confuse being challenged with being restricted.