The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona

[Scandalust313]

The FDA, under the Trump administration, is NOT "the gold standard of regulators". Trump has gutted the FDA and inserted his picks...which effectively does away with regulations. We all know Trump is very anti-regulation.

We've seen how the FDA has misled and covered up information during this pandemic.

They keep touting this vaccine as 90-95% "effective" but if you actually read the info from the studies, you'll see the word "efficacy" used. There's a difference between efficacy and effective...look it up. Of course in a *controlled* study of only a few thousand people, the vaccine looks to have a high "effectiveness" rate but it stands to reason those same results won't hold up in the general population. There are far too many variables among those with and without COVID symptoms and there are mutations. Further, this is a *novel* Coronavirus...novel means new...virologists are stll trying to learn how this disease works. Do you REALLY think there's a viable vaccine for this nine months in?

This vaccine, like this current FDA, is not to be trusted.

 

[DOS_patos]

The FDA, under the Trump administration, is NOT "the gold standard of regulators". Trump has gutted the FDA and inserted his picks...which effectively does away with regulations. We all know Trump is very anti-regulation.

We've seen how the FDA has misled and covered up information during this pandemic.

They keep touting this vaccine as 90-95% "effective" but if you actually read the info from the studies, you'll see the word "efficacy" used. There's a difference between efficacy and effective...look it up. Of course in a *controlled* study of only a few thousand people, the vaccine looks to have a high "effectiveness" rate but it stands to reason those same results won't hold up in the general population. There are far too many variables among those with and without COVID symptoms and there are mutations. Further, this is a *novel* Coronavirus...novel means new...virologists are stll trying to learn how this disease works. Do you REALLY think there's a viable vaccine for this nine months in?

This vaccine, like this current FDA, is not to be trusted.

i like this type of talk.

FDA and the dreaded Monsanto work hand in hand. So yes, the FDA can not be fully trusted.
I will say it is the Gold standard, but its the personnel that have monetary benefits invested which then corrupts that standard at certain points. Other than that they are thorough from what i know to avoid many lawsuits. cuz everyone knows ...we americans will sue our own momma under the right circumstances.


I agree with everything else.

from concept to market can take at least 10 yrs. its incredible that within one year they can come up with this and be ok putting it out like that after such short trials.

shit we dont know much about the metabolism within the body, toxicty, how it counter acts with other drugs or the long term damage to organs or the body in general.

 

[Blue_London]

The FDA, under the Trump administration, is NOT "the gold standard of regulators". Trump has gutted the FDA and inserted his picks...which effectively does away with regulations. We all know Trump is very anti-regulation.

We've seen how the FDA has misled and covered up information during this pandemic.

They keep touting this vaccine as 90-95% "effective" but if you actually read the info from the studies, you'll see the word "efficacy" used. There's a difference between efficacy and effective...look it up. Of course in a *controlled* study of only a few thousand people, the vaccine looks to have a high "effectiveness" rate but it stands to reason those same results won't hold up in the general population. There are far too many variables among those with and without COVID symptoms and there are mutations. Further, this is a *novel* Coronavirus...novel means new...virologists are stll trying to learn how this disease works. Do you REALLY think there's a viable vaccine for this nine months in?

This vaccine, like this current FDA, is not to be trusted.

This vaccine will also go through the European Union etc if it gets cleared by them will you trust it?

 

[DOS_patos]

This vaccine will also go through the European Union etc if it gets cleared by them will you trust it?

the EU commission is highly respected.

but no

 

[Blue_London]

the EU commission is highly respected.

but no

Then say your narrative is currently anti vaccine rather than saying it's trump government bill gates etc.

 

[Scandalust313]

i like this type of talk.

FDA and the dreaded Monsanto work hand in hand. So yes, the FDA can not be fully trusted.
I will say it is the Gold standard, but its the personnel that have monetary benefits invested which then corrupts that standard at certain points. Other than that they are thorough from what i know to avoid many lawsuits. cuz everyone knows ...we americans will sue our own momma under the right circumstances.


I agree with everything else.

from concept to market can take at least 10 yrs. its incredible that within one year they can come up with this and be ok putting it out like that after such short trials.

shit we dont know much about the metabolism within the body, toxicty, how it counter acts with other drugs or the long term damage to organs or the body in general.

I said the FDA *under the Trump administration*. I think you just wanted to disagree about *something* lol

Anyway, you know your shit

Happy Monday, Dos ?

 

[Scandalust313]

This vaccine will also go through the European Union etc if it gets cleared by them will you trust it?

No.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

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[DOS_patos]

I said the FDA *under the Trump administration*. I think you just wanted to disagree about *something* lol

Anyway, you know your shit

Happy Monday, Dos ?

LOL.....i guess you can look at it that way.

*Happy Monday to you aswell*

but seriously......the FDA were the only people i was afraid of other than the EPA.

i wasnt thinking once and went into a pilot plant early during an audit. for some reason i wasnt piking up on the verbal hints to leave immediately by the employees.
yeah....it wasnt a good day for me.

 

[DOS_patos]

Then say your narrative is currently anti vaccine rather than saying it's trump government bill gates etc.

we doing this again?

i dont have anything against trump on this subject but Gates is on some slick shit.

are you even open to being wrong about him?

 

[Scandalust313]

LOL.....i guess you can look at it that way.

*Happy Monday to you aswell*

but seriously......the FDA were the only people i was afraid of other than the EPA.

i wasnt thinking once and went into a pilot plant early during an audit. for some reason i wasnt piking up on the verbal hints to leave immediately by the employees.
yeah....it wasnt a good day for me.

What happened???

 

[Blue_London]

we doing this again?

i dont have anything against trump on this subject but Gates is on some slick shit.

are you even open to being wrong about him?

I don't care for him my issue is this vaccine isn't an America exclusive it would have to me accepted by a number of governing bodies across the globe.

So you highlighting bill gates means nothing.

 

[DOS_patos]

I don't care for him my issue is this vaccine isn't an America exclusive it would have to me accepted by a number of governing bodies across the globe.

So you highlighting bill gates means nothing.

means nothing?


lol

bro....you got it

 

[Scandalust313]

Hundreds of Bodies Remain in Brooklyn Disaster Morgue

• Hundreds of bodies are still stored in freezer trucks at a disaster morgue set up during New York City’s coronavirus surge in the spring, according to the city
• Many of the 650 bodies at the disaster morgue on the Brooklyn waterfront are of people whose families can’t be located or can’t afford a proper burial, officials said
• The medical examiner’s office is having trouble finding relatives of about 230 deceased people

Hundreds of bodies are still stored in freezer trucks at a disaster morgue set up during New York City’s coronavirus surge in the spring, according to the city’s Office of Chief Medical Examiner.

Many of the 650 bodies at the disaster morgue on the Brooklyn waterfront are of people whose families can’t be located or can’t afford a proper burial, officials said. The unit tasked with identifying bodies is set up to handle about 20 deaths a day, but during the peak of the pandemic it received as many as 200 a day, Aden Naka, deputy director of forensic investigations, tells the Wall Street Journal.

Normally, the deceased would have been buried within a few weeks in a gravesite for the indigent on Hart Island in the Long Island Sound. But as COVID-19 deaths surged in New York in April, with as many as 800 deaths in one day, Mayor Bill de Blasio pledged that mass burials in temporary graves wouldn’t take place.

The medical examiner’s office is having trouble finding relatives of about 230 deceased people, officials said. When next of kin have been contacted, many bodies haven’t been collected because families haven’t arranged burial for financial reasons, nor have they requested free burial on Hart Island.

“Supporting families and helping facilitate respectful final arrangements for individuals who passed at the height of the pandemic reflects the core mission of the Office of Chief Medical Examiner,” Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Barbara Sampson said in a statement Sunday.

The city is slowly reducing the number of bodies in storage, with the number declining from 698 to 650 since mid-September, according to Dina Maniotis, the chief medical examiner’s office’s executive deputy commissioner.

New York state has reported at least 34,187 deaths of people due to COVID-19, according to data from John Hopkins University & Medicine. And at least 6,600 residents have died in nursing homes, according to state data, which doesn’t state how many nursing home residents died in hospitals.

Source: Hundreds of Bodies Remain in Brooklyn Disaster Morgue

 

[iamtheville]

Man just found out that my cuz got it and his wife had to take him to the hospital last night cause he couldn't breathe. He has pneumonia and low count white cells. He says this shit ain't no joke.

 

[Blue_London]

 

[Scandalust313]

Man just found out that my cuz got it and his wife had to take him to the hospital last night cause he couldn't breathe. He has pneumonia and low count white cells. He says this shit ain't no joke.

I had an aunt who just passed away from COVID. She was admitted to the hospital at 8 the morning she went in...her lungs filled up with fluid so quickly, she didn't live to see noon.

"This shit ain't no joke", indeed.

Y'all better quit playing outchea in these Corona streets

 

[Mister B.]

I had an aunt who just passed away from COVID. She was admitted to the hospital at 8 the morning she went in...her lungs filled up with fluid so quickly, she didn't live to see noon.

"This shit ain't no joke", indeed.

Y'all better quit playing outchea in these Corona streets

Sorry for your loss, man. Stay strong out here.

 

[Scandalust313]

Sorry for your loss. Stay strong out here.

Thank you...I appreciate it, Mister B

 

[iamtheville]

I had an aunt who just passed away from COVID. She was admitted to the hospital at 8 the morning she went in...her lungs filled up with fluid so quickly, she didn't live to see noon.

"This shit ain't no joke", indeed.

Y'all better quit playing outchea in these Corona streets

Yeah people think this shit is a joke. Had a co worker catch it twice. My female cousins friend caught it.....got double pneumonia and died. Now my cuz who is overweight af and is only about 37 or 38. Shit is crazy.

Condolences to you and yours