Bow to Royalty
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Straw man argument. I never said anything close to this. If I did, drop the quote.
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Kyle Rittenhouse Trial (Jacob Blake Protest Shooting)
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Straw man argument. I never said anything close to this. If I did, drop the quote.
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
Was the chase that led to the shooting directly after that? If not, what do these videos prove other than that I was mistaken about them burning anything at the time? The fire was already put out when the shooting occurred. Is there more than shows that the fire being put out directly precipitated into the shooting or is that speculation? Rittenhouse wasn't even the one that put the fire out, and the person that did put the fire out didn't kill anyone.
And you still haven't addressed the central problem. Rittenhouse is not a cop. He had no authority to confront protesters. He's not from the area and wasn't protecting his interests. He's not legally able to own the gun he was carrying. Just as I said with Zimmerman. Rittenhouse is someone who wasn't supposed to be there doing what he was doing, and ultimately his presence and actions are what led to the events that followed. Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think they were trying to burn down a building by starting a dumpster fire and pushing it into the street. I was mistaken in saying that the protesters hadn't started a fire, but I don't really see how the videos support the case you're making.
You didn't explicitly state that, but you're justifying the militia members (Rittenhouse included) confronting protesters with weapons by pointing out that they were burning a dumpster.
Black_Samson
OG
Yall 2 need to be banned from this thread.
Yall are bringing nothing new to the conversation.
Got one guy playing like being a libertarian aint seen as a fringe element of the right wing political structure.
And the other guy is playing arm chair prosecutor knowing full well the entire timeline has yet to be properly established.
Neither one has the shining.
Ban them both from the thread.
Yall are bringing nothing new to the conversation.
Got one guy playing like being a libertarian aint seen as a fringe element of the right wing political structure.
And the other guy is playing arm chair prosecutor knowing full well the entire timeline has yet to be properly established.
Neither one has the shining.
Ban them both from the thread.
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
Y'all add soooo much extra around what's actually said. You said the protesters are people just minding their own business, and there's no proof anyone he shot was burning anything. I point out both of those things aren't true, and y'all are acting like I'm making some wild claims. I never said or implied that led to their altercation . I've said over and over and over again we don't know why Rosenbaum went after him.
Again making up a story. " He had no authority to confront protesters". Who said Rosenbaum confronted anyone he shot? Avoiding details by using broad strokes again. Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum and 2 other people. You're saying he had no right to confront protesters, but won't say he confronted anyone he shot. And only the people he shot are relevant! If he confronted a whole separate group hours earlier, for example, that wouldn't give Rosenbaum justification to attack him.
I didn't justify anything involving that dumpster fire. My point was ONLY that there was a dumpster fire, and that Rosenbaum was involved in. I never mentioned the militia or Rittenhouse at all in relation to the fire. The tweet did but i can't help the caption put on the video. I tried to find it in YouTube, to avoid the caption, but didn't see it on there unless it was part of a really long video.
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
Bruh, I'm not even on some libertarian shit. I'm talking legality. I said you can't attack someone without legal justification. So from what we've seen, Rittenhouse was justified in defending himself because he was being attacked. So unless a justification for Rosenbaum attacking him comes out... it's self defense. That's not a libertarian thing.
2max
Ball game
Ur
Ur right about the self defense thing..
People forget its only a misdemeanor to have a gun under 18 where that state is..
Ur right about the self defense thing..
People forget its only a misdemeanor to have a gun under 18 where that state is..
Soul_Rattler
Active Member
This is the type of shit we gotta stop doing. First chance we get, we start calling each other sellouts toms and buck broken over simple straightforward shit.
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
Thank you! Somebody with some sense that's looking at the law. Everybody wants to yell jail, but think the law isn't relevant. Shit's crazy to me.
Been saying you can think he's wrong and a shitty person, but that's not a crime. That doesn't get you locked up.
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
Congratulations, somehow you misrepresent two stances in the same post. That must be a record of some kind. Your post is the definition of not bringing anything to a thread.
Shame on you
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Well.
if a person is destroying me and my wife car
that would directly impact my ability to take care of my kids by affecting my ability to work affecting my ability afford proper healthcare for my family so if something happens to them to can be taken care of.
Like I said. Depending on what property I have that is being destroyed.
You can turn the other cheek, I’m not.
I'll quote Monk on this:
'You didn't explicitly state that, but you're justifying the militia members (Rittenhouse included) confronting protesters with weapons by pointing out that they were burning a dumpster.'
Nuff said. You can spew all your interpretations of the law as you want to but this boils down to who was where and why. He had no business being there defending property when he could have been there defending someone's life
The end
Dwayne
Not Like Us
He wasn’t defending his own property so fuck that lil shit.
He was there aggressively with a rifle being reckless
Lock him up
You being inconvenienced isn't worth taking someone life b
I know for a FACT you and ya wife car ain't the last vehicles on the road.
This ain't a matter of turning the other cheek. Shame on you
Mister
Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity is incurable.
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
You're missing the point again. I'm talking law, since I'm only saying he shouldn't go to jail for the shooting. You're talking morality. Nobody's saying he's a good or moral person. Nobody's saying he was making the right choices that night. I'm just saying with the info we have right now, he's not LEGALLY in the wrong for shooting them.
I'm talking about if he should be locked up. Anything you're saying that isn't a legal argument, and doesn't involve his interactions with the people he shot is irrelevant.
Then we have nothing to talk about.
Again, when niggas care more about property then they do human life, dead the convo
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
Not as far as legality vs morality
He didn't shoot Rosenbaum over property though. He shot him for attacking him. The trigger wasn't pulled over a car/building.
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