Who’s to blame for NY’s downfall: 50 Cent or Ebro
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Imo I don’t see how 50 was stopping Ebro from playing NY rappers.
OGDirtyD
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Idk what it was but i know fr like 99-2005 most people i know just didnt fw up NY music like that outside a big named rapper like Jay Z. Just wasnt the vibe that was going down in the south. And it looks like even NY rappers were starting to want to have the south vibe then folks like ASAP Rocky started making southern ny music. Lol
Bed$tuy🇭🇹
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This topic is also redundantly beaten to death.
Up north vs Down South blah blah blah
Underground Vs Mainstream blah blah blah
NYC elitist arrogance blah blah blah
Source awards blah blah blah
The South got Something to say. Blah blah blah
Nyc Biting southerners and drill rap blah blah blah
Many variables included. So all of the above. I'm almost done with this shit. I don't care about HipHop like I use to. Getting tired of the same repetitive cycles.
Up north vs Down South blah blah blah
Underground Vs Mainstream blah blah blah
NYC elitist arrogance blah blah blah
Source awards blah blah blah
The South got Something to say. Blah blah blah
Nyc Biting southerners and drill rap blah blah blah
Many variables included. So all of the above. I'm almost done with this shit. I don't care about HipHop like I use to. Getting tired of the same repetitive cycles.
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RozayTabernacle
The Bawse
I know 50 was a major hater of other NY rappers like Nas, Fat Joe, Kiss, etc. but he put on Banks and Yayo, made Mobb Deep relevant in the mainstream again and could've done the same of MOP. Based off that alone I don't think you can blame NY's downfall on him.
This thread from 2013
Dwitty
Active Member
Just like NY to pass the buck to someone else. If NY citizens cared and called up to radio saying play local artists, then the local artists would get played. If NY music moguls said we don't affiliate with DJs or stations who don't embrace local artists, then local artists would get played. NY music industry likes to throw their weight around on other topics but this one is "woe is me plz play our music we're at your mercy" FOH
NYers are to blame not Ebro not 50
NYers are to blame not Ebro not 50
LurkerSix
OG
Clearly he's not. But I blame both him among the others I mentioned.
LurkerSix
OG
Its all on NY. From them hating on other artists and making sure they dont get any shine, them not willing to promote or uplift another artist unless there was a financial incentive to do so, to artists writing bullshit ass songs.
Shit makes me think back to the Irv interview when he said he should of signed 50 to a fucked up deal and shelved all his music before he blew up, instead of just telling everyone not to work with him. Thats some super lame shit and I'm sure it went on often.
deadeye
Warrior
Neither.
New York started to fall off when they saw how much money West Coast artists were making.
They saw them as lyrically inferior, and figured that..........if they focused on putting out similar content, they'd make more money than them since they considered themselves to be better lyricists.
Problem is, they lost their identity in the process in the sense that all they talked about was the streets.
Back in the day there was more variety in New York.
Of course you had the hardcore artists...........but you also had artists like Tribe Called Quest...........De la Soul..........the whole Native Tongues movement.........the 5 percent influence with Poor Righteous Teachers...........KMD...........King Sun, etc.
Granted, there was some good music that came out as a result.
However, the last golden age of NY HipHop was in the 2000's.
Mainly from 2001-2008 with the various movements:
Dipset Movement..........Ruff Ryders/Lox...............G-Unit...................and Rocafella.
After those movements died out, NY Hip Hop was never the same.
There's flashes of it here or there, but it'll never be what it used to be.
And this is for Hip-Hop in general too.
Since it started in New York............regardless of how much it's spread across the world..........New York still sets the tone.
Or it least it's supposed too.
Once that stopped being the case............Hip-Hop suffered as a result.
New York started to fall off when they saw how much money West Coast artists were making.
They saw them as lyrically inferior, and figured that..........if they focused on putting out similar content, they'd make more money than them since they considered themselves to be better lyricists.
Problem is, they lost their identity in the process in the sense that all they talked about was the streets.
Back in the day there was more variety in New York.
Of course you had the hardcore artists...........but you also had artists like Tribe Called Quest...........De la Soul..........the whole Native Tongues movement.........the 5 percent influence with Poor Righteous Teachers...........KMD...........King Sun, etc.
Granted, there was some good music that came out as a result.
However, the last golden age of NY HipHop was in the 2000's.
Mainly from 2001-2008 with the various movements:
Dipset Movement..........Ruff Ryders/Lox...............G-Unit...................and Rocafella.
After those movements died out, NY Hip Hop was never the same.
There's flashes of it here or there, but it'll never be what it used to be.
And this is for Hip-Hop in general too.
Since it started in New York............regardless of how much it's spread across the world..........New York still sets the tone.
Or it least it's supposed too.
Once that stopped being the case............Hip-Hop suffered as a result.
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Mister B. M. Ed.
The Devil’s Greatest Advocate…..
There's a lot more to it than this. I blame lack of originality, creativity, and falling behind to stay relevant from the NY hip-hop scene. To place the lame solely on these two is a bit narrow-minded.
However, they each had their share in the downfall of NYC hip-hop remaining at the forefront of the culture.
However, they each had their share in the downfall of NYC hip-hop remaining at the forefront of the culture.
