When is it time to cut people off? when and why did you make the move?

[DMorgan]

and this was aprt of the conversation that got me pissed....

dudes claiming they doing this and that...when their conversation dont match up. nigga told me he always reaches everyone. its not possible.

i know i cant save everyone...but those that are like me...i would like for them to hear me and know they dont have to be like others who follow the wrong path because they think thats all they have.

but right now...im frustrated.....im not perfect and i needed to take a step back.
i rather take a step back than attack kids and people who dont deserve it because of someone else.

Shit everybody needs a break. When I see fucked up kids especially at a certain age I look at the adults around them.

Oh see why you so mad you dealing with niggas with fucked up egos and priorities.

 

[DOS_patos]

Shit everybody needs a break. When I see fucked up kids especially at a certain age I look at the adults around them.

Oh see why you so mad you dealing with niggas with fucked up egos and priorities.

exactly.....

 

[Preach2Teach]

I know I should cut some people out but I rarely ever do it, most people are just not interested in self improvement and just carry on without thinking then complain about shit, as previously stated in here people do not like to be preached to so I just keep it chilled unless my advice is asked.

 

[T. Sanford]

It's time to cut people off when they still come around with negativity. When you grow up in it then when you become grown & have the option to not be apart of that energy then you don't want be around it anymore because of the past. You will want something different. Like the 48 laws quote "Avoid the unhappy & unlucky". You gotta look at people as a tree. All trees are known by their fruits. Who your friends are that's who you are.... You are what you attract... What you can't attract you're not.

 

[deadeye]

Pretty much keep to myself for the most part, so there's not really anybody to cut off.


Smartest thing to do is keep people at a safe distance and not let them in your business.

 

[deadeye]

You right the teacher don't have to change the lesson but the teacher has to realize they not teaching nobody shit if their lesson ain't being received. Everybody don't learn the same so just cause 10 kids got lesson out of a class of 30 kids. Don't mean those 10 kids are smarter than
the other 20 kids. It just might mean they are visual learners while the other 20 kids are hands on learners.

Church ain't got shit to do with this!

Most people know the battle we in. At the same time though if you keep talking the same but ain't nobody getting it regardless of whether you're right in what you saying. You need to change up how you putting the message out there cause its not be received and that is your fault.

Everything you said is true.


Can't speak for Pralims, but I just don't have the patience for that shit anymore.


If I think enough of someone to take time out of my day to reach out and help them and they start complaining about the way I'm trying to help them...........I'm done.


Similar to how you tell somebody something, and they say.........."I got this".......or something to that effect?


I've got the same mentality now.


I'm thinking to myself........"Aight bruh, you got it"..........and just go on about my business.


The irony is that those same people will still end up asking for your help when they get in a bind.........despite the fact that they didn't wanna hear anything you had to say when what you were trying to tell them back then could've prevented them from even being in that situation to begin with.

 

[DOS_patos]

Everything you said is true.


Can't speak for Pralims, but I just don't have the patience for that shit anymore.


If I think enough of someone to take time out of my day to reach out and help them and they start complaining about the way I'm trying to help them...........I'm done.


Like how you tell somebody something, and they say.........."I got this".......or something to that effect?


I've got the same mentality now.


I'm thinking to myself........"Aight bruh, you got it"..........and just go on about my business.


The irony is that those same people will still end up asking for your help when they get in a bind.........despite the fact that they didn't wanna hear anything you had to say when what you were telling them back then could've prevented them from even being in that situation to begin with.

and this is apart of the problem....

i try to help....well tried to help alot of people.

i had crazy time on my hands...so i decided to branch out to help others....you would be amazed at how shit was received.

i just dont feel the need to sugarcoat shit...simply because the world is not going to sugarcoat shit.
im not going to talk down to anyone...but sometimes...the truth is the truth.

like its grown ass men with multiple degrees thats lazy ass niggas who want a hand out. i shared the story with @Sion cause a nigga was mad angry.
nigga got what he needs but he still want it handed to him. i should be asking this nigga for help.

shit...i even was recently talking to my lil cousin trying to get him on the right road.....rather than take my help...he wants to bring his homies to see if they can pull some chicks...its like

the fuck?

and its sad thats its more people that think like this than who want to real get somewhere with hard work.

and why is that only in our community?

 

[DOS_patos]

The bold to me is where you wrong to me. Most people if they give you their time of day are trying to get the message. If they honestly don't get it either you didn't explain it right or they possibly not smart enough to get it. I would seriously doubt its from a lack of trying though.

Teachers do teach its also part of the teachers job to help those students who not getting it. Its actually dumb as fuck for teachers to try to fit everyone in the same box when its factually proven everybody doesn't learn the same.

I agree 100% that students also on their own need to seek help in getting the lesson being taught if they not getting it in class. But fact remains its a two-way street. The teacher needs to make some adjustments in how they are teaching and the kids need to do extra outside of class to help them keep up.

I said sometimes feelings can't be spared when delivering a message. Also its not smart or wise to always try to deliver your message with a heavy handed approach. Its just going to turn some people off.

Speaking to people in a certain way is not the same as handling people with kid gloves.

The persons accountability is if they know the battle we in and don't like the shit you saying but down for the cause to go elsewhere and get with folks who trying to move how they like to move to accomplish the same goals you are just in a different manner.

As the saying goes there is more than one way to skin a cat.

you know...i had to think about this statement...

i think this might be kinda wrong.
alot of people come to get walked thru a process. and when you dont baby them thats when they dont want to hear anymore.

while i am telling someone to think for themselves.....they asking ok...once i incorporate, what kind of business do i start.
i tell them to think about a need that needs to be met.
they say..like what.
i say....you have to think about supply and demand,.
they say...why cant you tell me what kind of business to start.
i say...i cant tell you what to start , you must have the idea.
they say...so you aint really here to help me. you just talking.

so this is where shit usually goes left.
while i have thousands of ideas....that dont mean im just going to give the shit to someone who dont know what they are doing.
even the times i did give niggas ideas....most still want you to walk them thru the paperwork and do everything.
at some point they need to make a solo effort.

only children need to be handled like this.

its sad that my wife came to me the other day and told me.....sweety, i see your frustration but the way to stop this is to charge people. the shit talkers wont even show up.

its fucked up, that some shit cant even be given free without niggas trying to take advantage.

 

[deadeye]

and this is apart of the problem....

i try to help....well tried to help alot of people.

i had crazy time on my hands...so i decided to branch out to help others....you would be amazed at how shit was received.

i just dont feel the need to sugarcoat shit...simply because the world is not going to sugarcoat shit.
im not going to talk down to anyone...but sometimes...the truth is the truth.

like its grown ass men with multiple degrees thats lazy ass niggas who want a hand out. i shared the story with @Sion cause a nigga was mad angry.
nigga got what he needs but he still want it handed to him. i should be asking this nigga for help.

shit...i even was recently talking to my lil cousin trying to get him on the right road.....rather than take my help...he wants to bring his homies to see if they can pull some chicks...its like

the fuck?

and its sad thats its more people that think like this than who want to real get somewhere with hard work.



why is that only in our community?

The bolded is a good question.



I recognize the behavior, and can explain it.......but have no idea why it's like that.



Maybe it can be traced back to all the damage that was done to us through slavery.

 

[deadeye]

and this is apart of the problem....

i try to help....well tried to help alot of people.

i had crazy time on my hands...so i decided to branch out to help others....you would be amazed at how shit was received.

i just dont feel the need to sugarcoat shit...simply because the world is not going to sugarcoat shit.
im not going to talk down to anyone...but sometimes...the truth is the truth.

like its grown ass men with multiple degrees thats lazy ass niggas who want a hand out. i shared the story with @Sion cause a nigga was mad angry.
nigga got what he needs but he still want it handed to him. i should be asking this nigga for help.

shit...i even was recently talking to my lil cousin trying to get him on the right road.....rather than take my help...he wants to bring his homies to see if they can pull some chicks...its like

the fuck?

and its sad thats its more people that think like this than who want to real get somewhere with hard work.



why is that only in our community?

The bolded is a good question.



I recognize the behavior, and can explain it.......but have no idea why it's like that.



Maybe it can be traced back to all the damage that was done to us through slavery.

 

[DOS_patos]

The bolded is a good question.



I recognize the behavior, and can explain it.......but have no idea why it's like that.



Maybe it can be traced back to all the damage that was done to us through slavery.

cool...but can we blame slavery ...right now...right this moment?

now before everyone jumps on me.....let me explain.

is slavery stopping you from going back to school right now?
is slavery stopping you from going after that promotion?
is slavery stopping you from getting healthier?
is slavery stopping you from doing research on power past black leaders and people?
is slavery stopping you from being a pillar in your community?

please explain how slavery is stopping that...at this moment?

did slavery stop @Goldie from going out on a limb and starting his own website?
did slavery stop @deadeye from aging past 30?
did slavery stop anyone from going to college?

at some point we need to look at ourselves. look at our decisions.

is slavery stopping us from owning a house? but slavery helped us buy a $50k car.

these all sound like esteem issues...thats starts in the home.

and now that we are grown its to us to recognize it and help others not fall into what we felt that may have lead us to making the wrong decisions.

its too many of us ....looking and seeing a problem but quick to say ....that aint my problem. that man is going to go to jail.

but why are we not stopping him? why would we want to see another man go thru what we went thru? is it esteem issues?

do we need to prove to ourselves that hes not better than you so you ok with him failing?

lets talk about it

 

[deadeye]

cool...but can we blame slavery ...right now...right this moment?

now before everyone jumps on me.....let me explain.

is slavery stopping you from going back to school right now?
is slavery stopping you from going after that promotion?
is slavery stopping you from getting healthier?
is slavery stopping you from doing research on power past black leaders and people?
is slavery stopping you from being a pillar in your community?

please explain how slavery is stopping that...at this moment?

did slavery stop @Goldie from going out on a limb and starting his own website?
did slavery stop @deadeye from aging past 30?
did slavery stop anyone from going to college?

at some point we need to look at ourselves. look at our decisions.

is slavery stopping us from owning a house? but slavery helped us buy a $50k car.

these all sound like esteem issues...thats starts in the home.

and now that we are grown its to us to recognize it and help others not fall into what we felt that may have lead us to making the wrong decisions.

its too many of us ....looking and seeing a problem but quick to say ....that aint my problem. that man is going to go to jail.

but why are we not stopping him? why would we want to see another man go thru what we went thru? is it esteem issues?

do we need to prove to ourselves that hes not better than you so you ok with him failing?

lets talk about it

All true.


I wasn't talking about individual progress........but the crabs-in-a- barrel mentality you mentioned earlier.

 

[deadeye]

Yo..........just caught this:

did slavery stop @deadeye from aging past 30?

 

[DOS_patos]

All true.


I wasn't talking about individual progress........but the crabs-in-a- barrel mentality you mentioned earlier.

ok....but what slaves got to do with a nigga wanting to kill me because im moving out the hood?

 

[T. Sanford]

Pretty much keep to myself for the most part, so there's not really anybody to cut off.


Smartest thing to do is keep people at a safe distance and not let them in your business.

Often times, I'll see people from childhood & high school days still kicking it together & doing the same thing that they were doing at 18 years old. That's how I know that none of them fools haven't grew mentally. These are the types that do everything that they wanna do but make every excuse in the world for things that they need to do. I was having the convo with my big brother about a couple of weeks ago. Some people will go across city, out of town to bop on some chicks but won't sit down with themselves for about 2-3 hours of their day to get a diploma. Like the quote say "The bigger the crowd, the dumber the crowd"

 

[deadeye]

ok....but what slaves got to do with a nigga wanting to kill me because im moving out the hood?

Similar mindset to how some slaves would run and tell master whenever they found out about other slaves trying to escape.


Knowing full well that "Massuh" would kill those slaves for trying to get off the plantation.


See the parallel now?

 

[deadeye]

Often times, I'll see people from childhood & high school days still kicking it together & doing the same thing that they were doing at 18 years old. That's how I know that none of them fools haven't grew mentally. These are the types that do everything that they wanna do but make every excuse in the world for things that they need to do. I was having the convo with my big brother about a couple of weeks ago. Some people will go across city, out of town to bop on some chicks but won't sit down with themselves for about 2-3 hours of their day to get a diploma. Like the quote say "The bigger the crowd, the dumber the crowd"

Yeah, those types never seem to have their priorities in order.


Or worse, like you said earlier.......they tend to prioritize the wrong things.

 

[DOS_patos]

Similar mindset to how some slaves would run and tell master whenever they found out about other slaves trying to escape.


Knowing full well that "Massuh" would kill those slaves for trying to get off the plantation.


See the parallel now?

no ...not quite....

because the slave who told wanted a sort of special acknowledgement...special favor.

the nigga im talking about...is just hating....with no special want or desire.....you want to not see someone be better than him or themselves.

thats misguided anger and hate.

 

[DOS_patos]

Often times, I'll see people from childhood & high school days still kicking it together & doing the same thing that they were doing at 18 years old. That's how I know that none of them fools haven't grew mentally. These are the types that do everything that they wanna do but make every excuse in the world for things that they need to do. I was having the convo with my big brother about a couple of weeks ago. Some people will go across city, out of town to bop on some chicks but won't sit down with themselves for about 2-3 hours of their day to get a diploma. Like the quote say "The bigger the crowd, the dumber the crowd"

this is because niggas need the instant win...the instant feel good.

this is what they think their lane is.

but its not....that is the lane they homies put them in.
and thats the lane that aint shit niggas want them to stay in.

once a dude tells them same niggas....nah...im not going to see shawty....i have a application to fill out for some classes i want to take.

them niggas gonna be like...you gonna pass that pussy up? niggas you corny.

but then them same niggas mad they in child support court wondering why the chick wont let up on them

 

[deadeye]

no ...not quite....

because the slave who told wanted a sort of special acknowledgement...special favor.

the nigga im talking about...is just hating....with no special want or desire.....you want to not see someone be better than him or themselves.

thats misguided anger and hate.

The common denominator is that.........regardless of what they're getting out of it........the slave and the hating-ass friend both want the satisfaction of seeing you dead.


They don't care whether or not there's any tangible benefit to them directly.


The friend wants you dead because he gets some sense of satisfaction knowing that you're not gonna get to enjoy the fruits of your labor.


The snitching slave gets satisfaction knowing that his fellow slaves aren't going to live to experience freedom.


We might not see the logic in that, but that's their mentality.