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UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside of Hilton hotel in Midtown in possible targeted attack

we gon disregard that this took place at like the crack of dawn and there werent very many people around to respond even if they could?
why would that matter when all it takes is 1 person

and it's NYC, the timing wouldn't have really been a factor
 
why would that matter when all it takes is 1 person

and it's NYC, the timing wouldn't have really been a factor

aite man.

Lets disregard the fact that dude didnt have armed security when he could have.
Lets disregard he got shot in the back from a distance.
Lets disregard that the shit happened in the early hours of the morning where there werent many people around to respond.

Youre arguing that *checks notes* someone... ANYONE with a gun that just happened to be in the area wouldve been beneficial to this situation?
 
why would that matter when all it takes is 1 person

and it's NYC, the timing wouldn't have really been a factor
Timing matters , that shooting happened around 6:45 am ,it’s still dark with a little bit of sunlight , if it was a 1 hour later that shit would of have been brighter with more sunlight and flooded with tourists and regular civilians walking on the sidewalks in midtown during Christmas time , who are not trying to get into a gunfight with a masked man with a silencer who shot someone in the back.

He had a small window without any cops being present to pull this off
 
aite man.

Lets disregard the fact that dude didnt have armed security when he could have.
Lets disregard he got shot in the back from a distance.
Lets disregard that the shit happened in the early hours of the morning where there werent many people around to respond.

Youre arguing that *checks notes* someone... ANYONE with a gun that just happened to be in the area wouldve been beneficial to this situation?
in places other than NYC where civilians typically conceal carry

yes it is likely a random gun owner would have intervened

even if just out of fear out that the situation could potentially escalate into a mass shooting scenario



I know cats in cities typically don't even think of stuff like that happening

cuz most cats who find that hard to believe typically don't hang around other folks who carry concealed on a regular basis (legally)..........it might truly just be a diff cultural mindset
 
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Timing matters , that shooting happened around 6:45 am ,it’s still dark with a little bit of sunlight , if it was a 1 hour later that shit would of have been brighter with more sunlight and flooded with tourists and regular civilians walking on the sidewalks in midtown during Christmas time , who are not trying to get into a gunfight with a masked man with a silencer who shot someone in the back.

He had a small window without any cops being present to pull this off
all of this is fair considering it's NYC and most folks wouldn't have been armed anyway

but while NYC has peak hours/slower hours, typically people are still out on the street no matter what time of the day it is

plus cops are out 24/7 so I'm not following what u getting at here

cuzzo even took his shots during a weekday, at 6:45 people are going to work so it wasn't that dead




most NYers just mind their own business, and the shooter def had plenty of (unarmed) witnesses

which is my point about NYC being a preferred location when it's highly likely there would be minimal armed resistance from a random bystander
 
The hero civilian with a gun trying to kill a murderer rarely plays out in the real world regardless of the town, city or State laws on guns

I truly don't understand the Wild West mentality of American gun owners.

No other country thinks about guns this way.

"Yeah we need guns to protect ourselves from other people with guns. If shit pops off, we gonna get into it."

It's truly a remanent of frontier colonialism, where everyone has to be armed because of lawlessness, and vigilantism.

I got a gun, I ain't intervening in shit. I am going the other way.
 
The hero civilian with a gun trying to kill a murderer rarely plays out in the real world regardless of the town, city or State laws on guns
u basing that on what evidence?

cause there are plenty of defensive uses of guns by civilians that are not publicized


but if ya'll are cool with just govt employees only having guns then ya'll are hypocrites......especially if ur a black person
 
I truly don't understand the Wild West mentality of American gun owners.

No other country thinks about guns this way.

"Yeah we need guns to protect ourselves from other people with guns. If shit pops off, we gonna get into it."

It's truly a remanent of frontier colonialism, where everyone has to be armed because of lawlessness, and vigilantism.

I got a gun, I ain't intervening in shit. I am going the other way.
yeah plenty of countries don't think about guns the way Americans do

yet they still suffer from high rates of murder and violence 🙁



and any Black person advocating against gun rights while living in America is obviously delusional
 
u basing that on what evidence?

cause there are plenty of defensive uses of guns by civilians that are not publicized


but if ya'll are cool with just govt employees only having guns then ya'll are hypocrites......especially if ur a black person
Published reports


How common is it for civilians to stop active threats? Data from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training (ALERRT) Center at Texas State University suggests bystanders stop active attacks about 16% of the time, although typically without using a gun.
 
Published reports


How common is it for civilians to stop active threats? Data from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training (ALERRT) Center at Texas State University suggests bystanders stop active attacks about 16% of the time, although typically without using a gun.
hey at least u thru some evidence out there to back up ur point


but I'm pretty sure the victims in that 16% appreciated the help vs. the chance always being 0% instead

just saying......
 
hey at least u thru some evidence out there to back up ur point


but I'm pretty sure the victims in that 16% appreciated the help vs. the chance always being 0% instead

just saying......
Yeah, but it says they are typically unarmed. So what they are saying in this thread is correct. Armed bystanders only stop these situations 3% of the time.
 
Yeah, but it says they are typically unarmed. So what they are saying in this thread is correct. Armed bystanders only stop these situations 3% of the time.
Look most of Americans are not built for that daytime action 😤
Majority of American gun owners are scared to get in to a gun fight with someone with a gun who has shot someone in front of them . Those cute targets at the shooting range don’t shoot back 🤣🤣🤣.

Had the cops who are armed in Uvalde Texas scared to engage with that 1 school shooter , those cops were saying

“He has a battle rifle”: Police feared Uvalde gunman’s AR-15​


Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Daniel Coronado stepped outside, breathing heavily, and got on his radio to warn the others.

“I have a male subject with an AR,” Coronado said.

The dispatch crackled on the radio of another officer on the opposite side of the building.

“Fuck,” that officer said.

“AR,” another exclaimed, alerting others nearby.
 
People wanna be right so bad, they're gunna ignore decades of video evidence that when gun shots randomly go off in a public place, people run the opposite way looking for some place to hide. No one wants to get caught up in a random shoot out.

And when this argument happens, the ones saying how much we need everyone armed randoms to shoot back & how they're always ready, will be the main ones pushing women and children out the way so they're safe from the gun fire. Then drop their gun if they even attempt to pull it out.
 
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