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Koncept wilding LMAO

I was working part time at a Dollar General stocking shelves for $10/hr in 2011. After taxes, the money basically amounted to me being able to pay one utility bill or have enough gas money for both the cars my ex and I had at the time. We couldn't even go out to eat off that shit
 
AP21 said:
Koncept wilding LMAO

I was working part time at a Dollar General stocking shelves for $10/hr in 2011. After taxes, the money basically amounted to me being able to pay one utility bill or have enough gas money for both the cars my ex and I had at the time. We couldn't even go out to eat off that shit
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Wouldn't that depend in location?

I was in Buffalo an they was hyped off $10.

So it may be good on one but terrible in another.
 
I do think the minimum wage should be raised but I think improving public education and creating higher paying jobs is more important.

I also think the wal-marts of the world that take advantage of the low minimum wage by forcing their employees to receive public assistance need to be held accountable.
 
DOS_patos said:
Wouldn't that depend in location?

I was in Buffalo an they was hyped off $10.

So it may be good on one but terrible in another.
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idk

but i also made this as a student worker in college back in 03
 
AP21 said:
Koncept wilding LMAO

I was working part time at a Dollar General stocking shelves for $10/hr in 2011. After taxes, the money basically amounted to me being able to pay one utility bill or have enough gas money for both the cars my ex and I had at the time. We couldn't even go out to eat off that shit
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Fam, you made $10/hr. Where did you expect to go out to eat at???

Be truthful: Did either of you have a car note? How much was your apartment? What were your utility bills like? HOW WERE YOU BUDGETING TO PAY THOSE BILLS!!!

One of the most common mistakes I see is where folks pay a whole bill out a single paycheck and are left broke. That's the stupidest way to pay your bills and I see it so much I just wanna take a brick and throw it at niggas.

This is also an example about setting expectations. When you make $20k/yr, you live like you making $20k/yr. Don't expect to go out to eat at Red Lobster With The Cheddar Biscuits like you ballin' 'cause you ain't. You ain't making that kind of money. Maybe once in a while, yeah, but that's it.

Plus, where you live makes a difference. If you're living in Manhattan, fuck no you ain't going out, shit, you ain't even renting a cardboard box on that kind of money.
 
AP21 said:
idk...but does it matter? lol
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It matters a lot.

If you live in an area where the cost of living is high as shit, then it makes a difference as to how far your paycheck stretches.

Back in 2015, I did a breakdown on how a single person making $8/hr could live in Phoenix at that time.

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YRight now, you can't live off $8 an hour. You can't pay rent, buy groceries, pay bills with that.
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^^^ This statement right here made me log in...

So... let's dissect this, shall we???

We'll use a single person without kids making $8/hr at 40hrs a week.

$8hr/40hrs wk = $320/week gross pay.

I'll use my city and state for the example: Phoenix, AZ. Using this as our locale and 1 federal witholding we can get our net pay:

Weekly Gross Pay $320.00
Federal Withholding $20.96
Social Security $19.84
Medicare $4.64
Arizona $8.64

Net Pay $265.92

Ok... so.. we need housing, right?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/apa/5367611504.html

1bed/1 bath apartment, $485/month. Water and heat are included, electricity is not. Figure in about $100/month or so for electricity for a small apartment like this.

Now, you wanna eat, right? Aiight... We budget in about $225/month for food (the max a single person could get in SNAP benefits is $194, so we'll take that and add a few bucks to it just to be nice).

Aiight... let's see where we're at, let's (incorrectly) assume 4 weeks per month:

$265.92 x 4 = 1063.68

and we'll deduct from it our expenses up to this point:

$1063.68 - (485+100+225) = $253.68

Maybe you want a cell phone in all of this. Well, if you're intelligent (y'all ARE intelligent... right?) you already know that it would be stupid as fuck to even consider a smartphone with a plan... But let's say you're convinced that you, somehow, cannot live without a smartphone:

http://www.net10wireless.com/#/phone-detail/lg-optimus-fuel

^^^ there's your phone. You cop the $35/month unlimited talk and text plan that has limited data speed. I'll assume you've already bought the phone and we'll simply account for the plan itself:

$253.68 - $35 = $218.68

Transportation? You're on the bus fam... You ain't stuntin in shit except the 40 seat limo. A monthly buss pass outchea runs $64.00 for a 31 day pass:

$218.68 - 64.00 = $154.68

$154.68 is what you're left with every month after you've accounted for pretty much everything. Broken down that's $38.67 a week. It's all about budgeting. No you ain't ballin, no you ain't up in the club every week (though technically you could... you do have a few dollars left over). No you ain't dressing in the latest fashions... in fact, if you're smart about it you're dressing in Walmart shits for cheap.

And that, my friends, is how you live on $8/hr.

Now... if you were to drop from a full-on 1 bedroom apartment to a studio, you can save about $100 a month at that same spot. This could be used for a cheap home phone and internet bundle ($61.95/month through Centurylink) or for any number of things.

I know housing prices are different all over the country, but this is viable in quite a few major cities if people lowered their expectations as to what they expect out of the money they make.

This is why where you live matters. $8/hr was doable in 2015 in Phoenix. Unless you were living in an expensive ass city, $10/hr in 2011 should have been doable for you as well.
 
Koncept

Let me say first, I picked the job up as a side gig. I didn't "need" the money, but it was decent for part time, a couple days off the week type shit. My main job had the benefits and higher pay

My point still is at $10 an hour part time, that still wasn't enough money to do anything substantial. Even if I was full time, it wouldn't have been that much different imo. The point is, at that time $10 an HR wasn't shit and add inflation to that, I feel comfortable assuming it's still not shit all these years later and that was before any mandated minimum increase
 
AP21 said:
Koncept

Let me say first, I picked the job up as a side gig. I didn't "need" the money, but it was decent for part time, a couple days off the week type shit. My main job had the benefits and higher pay

My point still is at $10 an hour part time, that still wasn't enough money to do anything substantial. Even if I was full time, it wouldn't have been that much different imo. The point is, at that time $10 an HR wasn't shit and add inflation to that, I feel comfortable assuming it's still not shit all these years later and that was before any mandated minimum increase
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Ok, you didn't make the "part time" aspect of it clear. Of course you ain't going out to eat on a part time gig making $10/hr. How would you expect that?
 
konceptjones said:
Ok, you didn't make the "part time" aspect of it clear. Of course you ain't going out to eat on a part time gig making $10/hr. How would you expect that?
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Fam, I wasn't trying to go to Ruth Chris lol

I didn't think I had to specify that lol
 
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