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OPINION The Wire - A Hindsight Discussion

You think he told the truth about everything else but that. D was no killer, Avon wouldn't let him do that.
 
Bodie was fronting on D, so he made up some shit for props to seem like a big man in front of his crew. Couldn't even finish the story cause he didn't know the ending.

Then he gets picked up and starts snitching on any and everybody telling the truth about everything he knew. And then he admits that he got played and was just a driver that had no idea what was going down. Avon tells him he had to make him go so that he would be complicit for driving not for putting in work.

Wee bay then tells the police the same exact crime with all the details included and takes responsibility for the hit. Now ask yourself how would he know if D was the one doing the deed? You really think there's a situation where D and Weebay were both there and it was D who was doing the shooting while Weebay was in the car?! The same D'Angelo who was crying thinking he was gonna get popped when Weebay showed him his fish tank?!
 
Goldie said:
I still think String had the right plan and poor execution.

Avon is the reason the crew was struggling to begin with.

He ordered the hit on Orlando that landed him in jail. That caused him to lose the connect. Avon's ego would rather the crew have the territory with no product than to work with a competitor like Prop Joe.

The only reason String got caught up with brother mouzone was cuz he had to go behind Avon's back to cut a deal with Prop to get work. It was either that or starve.


Yall give Avon a pass for a lot of bullshit.
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I think the hit on Orlando wouldn't have been so bad had kima not gotten shot.

Weebay and ol boy fucked that up
 
PhenomTheMac said:
Bodie was fronting on D, so he made up some shit for props to seem like a big man in front of his crew. Couldn't even finish the story cause he didn't know the ending.

Then he gets picked up and starts snitching on any and everybody telling the truth about everything he knew. And then he admits that he got played and was just a driver that had no idea what was going down. Avon tells him he had to make him go so that he would be complicit for driving not for putting in work.

Wee bay then tells the police the same exact crime with all the details included and takes responsibility for the hit. Now ask yourself how would he know if D was the one doing the deed? You really think there's a situation where D and Weebay were both there and it was D who was doing the shooting while Weebay was in the car?! The same D'Angelo who was crying thinking he was gonna get popped when Weebay showed him his fish tank?!
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Initiation…. Same way Chris and Snoop could have killed Bodie but they had O Dog do it

They were there to make sure things went right just like Wee Bey was there to make sure D handled his business
 
Elzo69Renaissance said:
Initiation…. Same way Chris and Snoop could have killed Bodie but they had O Dog do it

They were there to make sure things went right just like Wee Bey was there to make sure D handled his business
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It seemed so out-of-character for the series -- Simon and Burns rarely misled viewers about something that big, for that long -- and so I asked Simon why he chose to do it that way:
There are clues in HOW D'Angelo tells the story -- his dramatic hesitation at the moment of truth, when it comes time to actually describe him shooting her in the face after the tap tap tap -- he hesitates, can't say specifically what he did next. A character was lying, taking credit for being more gangster than he actually is. No way to show this without simply throwing the lie out there. It would be lame and false to have him confess his lie in the next moment, even to someone else. People don't behave that way. So he lies. But in the writing and performance there are clues to a careful viewer that something is amiss with D'Angelo's account. And ultimately, when we hear the true story, we are certain (or should be certain) what it is. He is telling Wee-Bey's story, claiming it for his own. It works with the Pit Crew -- save perhaps for Bodie, who still doubts. But even D'Angelo, as he lies, is taken aback by his own claims of brutality. Watch the performance again.
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The Wire, Season 1, Episode 4, "Old Cases" (Veterans edition)

Once again, we're going to talk about season one of "The Wire" in two different versions: one safe for people who are brand-new to the show...
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Elzo69Renaissance said:
String green lit Orlando not Avon
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You're right, I remembered that part wrong.

My point about Avon's ego/street logic still remains tho. All he cared about was rep and territory. He didn't care about progress or business.

Even at the end he admits "String was right"
 
Goldie said:
You're right, I remembered that part wrong.

My point about Avon's ego/street logic still remains tho. All he cared about was rep and territory. He didn't care about progress or business.

Even at the end he admits "String was right"
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Shit man that was Strings first of many decisions to backfire
 
Then shooting at Omar s grandma Smmfh


AVON should have had cooking the books only like Joe in Black Caesar cuz String failed wholeheartedly at the gangsta shit
 
Avon played the game he was in, no more no less.

Stringer was about "business" until he wasn't. Then it was having D killed behind Avons back, cutting a deal with Joe also behind Avon's back, putting Omar and Mouzone against each other, violating the Sunday truce, trying to kill a state senator, fucking on D's girl, snitching on Avon, punking Poot in violation of his own rules.

Avon may have been just a gangster but he was GOOD at it. He won the game he was playing. Stringer really was a man without a country and he lost at both games he tried his hand at. This whole Stringer was right shit is a philosophical desire. It has no bearing on what actually happened. Stringers ideas could have worked, except they didn't.

Yall want it to be 1 way. But it's the other way.
 
Marlo literally got everything Stringer ever wanted by playing the game Avon's way.

You know what he did with that shit? He dismantled the co-op and and walked out of the high roller party. String got shitted on even in death. Should've listen to his man's about them away games.
 
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