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Can u explain this one

In the last decade it became apparent that cyber crime and social media "trolling" became the new phase of countries trying to weaken and undermine eachother.

In the last decade (2010 to 2019), pretty much the every citizen in the US got their info stolen, most of us multiple timew. Almost all these hacks were traced back to russia and china. Russia and china also hacked a ton of companies and stole their technology. The DNC got hacked and emails got stolen, that was Russia. A few years ago a govt database got hacked and the names of addresses of goverment workers got stolen, im talking cops, teachers etc, some of those names and addresses got posted online, that was blamed on china. And also, a few years ago the military even got hacked. I dont remember who it was but it might have been the pentagon or some branch of the military. That was Russia.

And then on social media, we call them russian trolls but its actually more russian operatives. They find anything causing diviseness in America and make posts for both sides to cause a divide.

For example, a study found that there were more Russian trolls that made Black lives Matter AND All Lives Matter than the actual activists on both sides. Same whenever a cop shot an unarmed black person. Same when it came to ISIS propaganda when US went into Syria.

List goes on. Just recently CNN uncovered a ring based out of Kenya where the Russians were paying like a group of 50 people to act like Black Americans and make posts that supported violence against cops. The hope ofcourse is that someone in the US will get influenced by these posts and either a white racist kill a black person or a black person shoot a cop.

Ofcourse all these are real issues in America. Black Lives Matter is real, cops killing unarmed black people is real, racial inequality is real, the list goes on. But Russia sees these real issues and uses social media to pour gas on the flame. Its one of the main reasons why tribalism is America is worse than ever and every side literally sees the other side as the enemy.

These are big examples but the list goes on. im sure russian operatives are also a huge percentage of the people who like and retweet divise posts made by trump. Same whenever nancy pelosi attacks trump. Same with qa anon posts. And same with these blaming corona on g5 posts.

This long ass post just to say Russia been killing the US in the cybercrime and social media wars. Other countries also help Russia, but Russia also been doing the same to European and African countries.

All in all, like I said, love them or hate them, you gotta give them props for how good of a job they are doing with this online cold war.
 
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CDC

WHO

They will try to convince you that all of the above and more are responsible for the situation we’re in.
Shit on trump all day long that's fine

But to not blame China or WHO at all is crazy


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This ain't an opinion piece

And yes, we can blame trump as well
 
In the last decade it became apparent that cyber crime and social media "trolling" became the new phase of countries trying to weaken and undermine eachother.

In the last decade (2010 to 2019), pretty much the every citizen in the US got their info stolen, most of us multiple timew. Almost all these hacks were traced back to russia and china. Russia and china also hacked a ton of companies and stole their technology. The DNC got hacked and emails got stolen, that was Russia. A few years ago a govt database got hacked and the names of addresses of goverment workers got stolen, im talking cops, teachers etc, some of those names and addresses got posted online, that was blamed on china. And also, a few years ago the military even got hacked. I dont remember who it was but it might have been the pentagon or some branch of the military. That was Russia.

And then on social media, we call them russian trolls but its actually more russian operatives. They find anything causing diviseness in America and make posts for both sides to cause a divide.

For example, a study found that there were more Russian trolls that made Black lives Matter AND All Lives Matter than the actual activists on both sides. Same whenever a cop shot an unarmed black person. Same when it came to ISIS propaganda when US went into Syria.

List goes on. Just recently CNN uncovered a ring based out of Kenya where the Russians were paying like a group of 50 people to act like Black Americans and make posts that supported violence against cops. The hope ofcourse is that someone in the US will get influenced by these posts and either a white racist kill a black person or a black person shoot a cop.

Ofcourse all these are real issues in America. Black Lives Matter is real, cops killing unarmed black people is real, racial inequality is real, the list goes on. But Russia sees these real issues and uses social media to pour gas on the flame. Its one of the main reasons why tribalism is America is worse than ever and every side literally sees the other side as the enemy.

These are big examples but the list goes on. im sure russian operatives are also a huge percentage of the people who like and retweet divise posts made by trump. Same whenever nancy pelosi attacks trump. Same with qa anon posts. And same with these blaming corona on g5 posts.

This long ass post just to say Russia been killing the US in the cybercrime and social media wars. Other countries also help Russia, but Russia also been doing the same to European and African countries.

All in all, like I said, love them or hate them, you gotta give them props for how good of a job they are doing with this online cold war.
Props for the post I'm gonna start looking into the cyber wars.

I do remember that leading up to the election it's like an unarmed black person was getting killed by police every single week. Since the election it's barely being reported on at all. Always found that shit to be weird as hell.
 
In the last decade it became apparent that cyber crime and social media "trolling" became the new phase of countries trying to weaken and undermine eachother.

In the last decade (2010 to 2019), pretty much the every citizen in the US got their info stolen, most of us multiple timew. Almost all these hacks were traced back to russia and china. Russia and china also hacked a ton of companies and stole their technology. The DNC got hacked and emails got stolen, that was Russia. A few years ago a govt database got hacked and the names of addresses of goverment workers got stolen, im talking cops, teachers etc, some of those names and addresses got posted online, that was blamed on china. And also, a few years ago the military even got hacked. I dont remember who it was but it might have been the pentagon or some branch of the military. That was Russia.

And then on social media, we call them russian trolls but its actually more russian operatives. They find anything causing diviseness in America and make posts for both sides to cause a divide.

For example, a study found that there were more Russian trolls that made Black lives Matter AND All Lives Matter than the actual activists on both sides. Same whenever a cop shot an unarmed black person. Same when it came to ISIS propaganda when US went into Syria.

List goes on. Just recently CNN uncovered a ring based out of Kenya where the Russians were paying like a group of 50 people to act like Black Americans and make posts that supported violence against cops. The hope ofcourse is that someone in the US will get influenced by these posts and either a white racist kill a black person or a black person shoot a cop.

Ofcourse all these are real issues in America. Black Lives Matter is real, cops killing unarmed black people is real, racial inequality is real, the list goes on. But Russia sees these real issues and uses social media to pour gas on the flame. Its one of the main reasons why tribalism is America is worse than ever and every side literally sees the other side as the enemy.

These are big examples but the list goes on. im sure russian operatives are also a huge percentage of the people who like and retweet divise posts made by trump. Same whenever nancy pelosi attacks trump. Same with qa anon posts. And same with these blaming corona on g5 posts.

This long ass post just to say Russia been killing the US in the cybercrime and social media wars. Other countries also help Russia, but Russia also been doing the same to European and African countries.

All in all, like I said, love them or hate them, you gotta give them props for how good of a job they are doing with this online cold war.
so is the president to blame or the citizens and how much they are susceptible to trolls and fake leadership?
 
so is the president to blame or the citizens and how much they are susceptible to trolls and fake leadership?

People are dumb. So cant blame people. I said somewhere else that if the govt wasnt going to protect its citizens, why even have a govt.

Leadership is to blame for sure. The US is behind in a lot of its thinking. It still thinks too conventionality, when things have changed. Think Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Syria for example. It treated all of them as conventional wars and pretty much lost them all cause wars arent fought conventionally anymore.

Same with economic theory. US govt still bases economics on the principles it did in 70s, 80, and 90s, whereas other civilized countries have figured out if you give everyone a liveable wage, health care and free schooling, then you spend more money on the front end, but you get a more educated work force which means higher paying jobs which means more spending, plus you since everyone can at the minimum get by, you reduce crime which means less prisons, and less cops, which means you save a ton of money. Free health care means you prevent diseases in people before its too late and preventive care is much cheaper than caring with people with diseases, so health care costs have gone down. This is why America has been falling behind in every metric, and countries that have modernized their understanding of economics are all ahead.

And this is the same with cyber wars. America has been thinking too conventionally and so its fallen behind on technology.

So you blame leadership.

And also, you blame Trump more than any other president cause these hes openly beneffitting from the trolling by Russian operatives and feeds into it, allowing them to cause my divide.
 
Same with economic theory. US govt still bases economics on the principles it did in 70s, 80, and 90s, whereas other civilized countries have figured out if you give everyone a liveable wage, health care and free schooling, then you spend more money on the front end, but you get a more educated work force which means higher paying jobs which means more spending, plus you since everyone can at the minimum get by, you reduce crime which means less prisons, and less cops, which means you save a ton of money. Free health care means you prevent diseases in people before its too late and preventive care is much cheaper than caring with people with diseases, so health care costs have gone down. This is why America has been falling behind in every metric, and countries that have modernized their understanding of economics are all ahead.
Doesn't this all have to do with profiting off healthcare and prisons?

The people getting paid aren't about to let go of a multi billion dollar industry.

Shady capitalism
 
Doesn't this all have to do with profiting off healthcare and prisons?

The people getting paid aren't about to let go of a multi billion dollar industry.

Shady capitalism

Yep. End of the day it all comes down to the US putting the needs corporations before citizens.

All those other countries also have limits on how much people can contribute to campaigns, no super pacs where doners can stay anonymous, and even limits on how much a campaign can spend. All of this limits corporate lobbying.

Look up the amount that was spent on the presidential campaign in 2016 compared to other developed countries. Your mind will be blown. And in 2020, even more will be spent.
 
People are dumb. So cant blame people. I said somewhere else that if the govt wasnt going to protect its citizens, why even have a govt.

Leadership is to blame for sure. The US is behind in a lot of its thinking. It still thinks too conventionality, when things have changed. Think Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Syria for example. It treated all of them as conventional wars and pretty much lost them all cause wars arent fought conventionally anymore.

Same with economic theory. US govt still bases economics on the principles it did in 70s, 80, and 90s, whereas other civilized countries have figured out if you give everyone a liveable wage, health care and free schooling, then you spend more money on the front end, but you get a more educated work force which means higher paying jobs which means more spending, plus you since everyone can at the minimum get by, you reduce crime which means less prisons, and less cops, which means you save a ton of money. Free health care means you prevent diseases in people before its too late and preventive care is much cheaper than caring with people with diseases, so health care costs have gone down. This is why America has been falling behind in every metric, and countries that have modernized their understanding of economics are all ahead.

And this is the same with cyber wars. America has been thinking too conventionally and so its fallen behind on technology.

So you blame leadership.

And also, you blame Trump more than any other president cause these hes openly beneffitting from the trolling by Russian operatives and feeds into it, allowing them to cause my divide.
you can blame leadership but so much.
after a while you have to blame those who will allow a leader to do that.

i remember a while ago greese shut shit down over something(cant remember} and the yellow vests were still giving them hell until recently...same with hong kong.

we cant keep blaming those in charge if we dont hold them accountable.
basically we are saying its ok to run us into the ground because we are american?

thats bullshit.

but thats whats happening.

no one is stepping to trump because of our american comfort. we can just wait him out and the next guy will fix it.

thats on us.

if the leader is inept what are the citizen supposed to do?

people are dumb ...i agree with you there. but being dumb an lazy is why trump is still here.

we need to be honest about what it is.....smoke and mirror is one thing.
but to keep watching the fucking dove to distract you when you know its a distraction is another thing.


i didnt take my nap and im tired of your shit. @AZTG bring your ass in here.
 
Trump is the reason we were in a position of having to rely on the WHO.
Bruh realize what your saying here considering the virus originated in China

If there was no WHO, we'd be even less informed about this virus, and taken even longer to act.

Who else could we rely on when a virus breaks out in a foreign (especially communist) country?
 
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