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That sentence has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your post lol.

It's a kill the message bc of the messenger perspective.

No. I stated my personal feelings on Maher. Then I stated why I think he's making the statement in the video. To sell tickets. Two separate trains of thought.
 
Every side of this, vaccinated anti vaxx and natural immunity, all have their positives and things to question. And you seem to be pretty dug in on natural immunity being the best option and questioning everything else. Are you also questioning the things you're reading about natural immunity with the same vigor? Or is your bias towards that leading you to more easily believe things you're reading that support that pov
Yea actually I am questioning everything. As it stands now, as the data shows, natural immunity + vax is the best immunity.

Natural immunity non vaxxed is next best. The data shows this and has been getting more strongly supported as time goes on.

The same has not occurred for vaccines.

When the info changes I will adjust. Haven't seen anyone here or elsewhere refute that. Also don't see what that has to do with Instagram banning hash tags.
 
No. I stated my personal feelings on Maher. Then I stated why I think he's making the statement in the video. To sell tickets. Two separate trains of thought.
What makes him different (on this stance) than the folks at Met Gala or the Emmys, or the San Francisco politician who partied mask less?
 
Yea actually I am questioning everything. As it stands now, as the data shows, natural immunity + vax is the best immunity.

Natural immunity non vaxxed is next best. The data shows this and has been getting more strongly supported as time goes on.

The same has not occurred for vaccines.

When the info changes I will adjust. Haven't seen anyone here or elsewhere refute that. Also don't see what that has to do with Instagram banning hash tags.

The hashtag is banned most likely to prevent people from just saying anything and putting it under that hashtag. Same as IG and other social media platforms have banned and flag certain post about covid that have certain things in them. That's why I said it's silly to think that there wouldn't be misinformation concerning natural immunity posted under it and to think otherwise is just blindly wanting to believe any and everything that falls under "natural immunity is the best".
 
What makes him different (on this stance) than the folks at Met Gala or the Emmys, or the San Francisco politician who partied mask less?

Nothing. Which is why people said it still wasn't the best idea to hold those events with the attendees vaccinated or not. Hell Seth Rogan said it live on air he was misled about the Emmys in order to get him there.
 
The hashtag is banned most likely to prevent people from just saying anything and putting it under that hashtag. Same as IG and other social media platforms have banned and flag certain post about covid that have certain things in them. That's why I said it's silly to think that there wouldn't be misinformation concerning natural immunity posted under it and to think otherwise is just blindly wanting to believe any and everything that falls under "natural immunity is the best".
I can understand banning posts with information. But banning a whole hash tag includes posts that didn't present misinformation. There's where my problem is.
 
Nothing. Which is why people said it still wasn't the best idea to hold those events with the attendees vaccinated or not. Hell Seth Rogan said it live on air he was misled about the Emmys in order to get him there.
Maybe he has a point. Lollapolooza wasn't a super spreader event. These events didn't seem to be either. Is it possible your bias is getting in the way bc u don't like him?
 
Maybe he has a point. Lollapolooza wasn't a super spreader event. These events didn't seem to be either. Is it possible your bias is getting in the way bc u don't like him?

No. Because him saying what he's saying so he can sell tickets has nothing to do with whether or not I hold a good or bad opinion of him. He's a comedian on tour..he's supposed to be trying to sell as many tickets as possible.

I'm a fan of live concerts and I thought holding massive music festivals was irresponsible too. My like or dislike of a person or event doesn't disqualify them. It may make me do a double take but it doesn't mean I automatically dismiss them
 
No. Because him saying what he's saying so he can sell tickets has nothing to do with whether or not I hold a good or bad opinion of him. He's a comedian on tour..he's supposed to be trying to sell as many tickets as possible.

I'm a fan of live concerts and I thought holding massive music festivals was irresponsible too. My like or dislike of a person or event doesn't disqualify them. It may make me do a double take but it doesn't mean I automatically dismiss them
So all these events, politicians not even abiding by their rules, from 100,000 average Joe's packed for a concert (some of them were unvaxxed w proof of negative test), to the elites holding events, shows, Obama's bday party.....

....is it possible that even if this guy wasn't tryna sell tickets what he's saying is reasonable?
 
Bill Maher is a "liberal who loves showing the hypocrisy of the left" aka a white guy who thinks his views aren't bigoted, stupid and racist because he has a couple Black friends. He's also trying to sell tickets to his shows so of course he takes this stance

Maher pretends to be a “ liberal.. but if you listin to his views on various issues.. He’s really just a whiny Libertarian…
 
This another case of focusing on the messenger not the message.

Clearly what Maher stated in that video is in line with what other Dem/left wing politicians have actually acted upon. For some reason that's completely lost on most.
 
So all these events, politicians not even abiding by their rules, from 100,000 average Joe's packed for a concert (some of them were unvaxxed w proof of negative test), to the elites holding events, shows, Obama's bday party.....

....is it possible that even if this guy wasn't tryna sell tickets what he's saying is reasonable?

Well we've also seen large events lead massive spikes in covid numbers. Like those bike rallies from this year and last year. You also have to consider the crowds at some of these events. Both the Emmys and Met required vaccines in order to attend. The people who attend those are mlre likely to either be vaccinated or be vigilant about wearing masks than people at the bike rallies that ended up with large numbers of covid cases after they were over.

But I also don't think his point about "liberals scaring people into staying inside" holds too much merit. Mainly because the idea of getting sick and dying or experiencing the symptoms that covid can bring both short and long term on its own has been enough to discourage people from attending certain events. And the people who've either thrown caution to the wind due to whatever reason have continued to live their lives.The people who were gonna go to his show in those cities would go regardless. This is just him trying to sell tickets and appeal to his audience that lives for him to be the guy who claims to be liberal sticking it to the libs.
 
I've noticed a bit of a switch in his commentary lately

It's been that way for a few years now. There's a few commentators and Podcasters who've taken the "I'm the leftist who will call out and criticize the left" route and it's quite profitable because it appeals to those who aren't outright in line with the overt racism and bigotry of the right but also don't feel like they agree with some of the societal changes those on the left want to see happen. It's white men's version of "white woman feminism". "Give them niggers just enough but not too much that I feel threatened"
 
You also have to consider the crowds at some of these events. Both the Emmys and Met required vaccines in order to attend. The people who attend those are mlre likely to either be vaccinated or be vigilant about wearing masks than people at the bike rallies that ended up with large numbers of covid cases after they were over.
This is EXACTLY what Maher advocated for and stated is a requirement at his shows. Not sure if u missed that?

But I also don't think his point about "liberals scaring people into staying inside" holds too much merit. Mainly because the idea of getting sick and dying or experiencing the symptoms that covid can bring both short and long term on its own has been enough to discourage people from attending certain events.
Aside from elites and certain politicians. This including Cuomo who is part of left wing media.

And the people who've either thrown caution to the wind due to whatever reason have continued to live their lives.The people who were gonna go to his show in those cities would go regardless. This is just him trying to sell tickets and appeal to his audience that lives for him to be the guy who claims to be liberal sticking it to the libs.
Eh, speculation. But point taken.
 
This another case of focusing on the messenger not the message.

Clearly what Maher stated in that video is in line with what other Dem/left wing politicians have actually acted upon. For some reason that's completely lost on most.

No it's not. I made a clear separation of the messenger and the message. Maybe it's you that's not as adept as you think at differentiating between the two because you seem to take issue when people can say "this person is an asshole even if they make a good point". You seem to get stuck on the former and ignore the latter part
 
No it's not. I made a clear separation of the messenger and the message. Maybe it's you that's not as adept as you think at differentiating between the two because you seem to take issue when people can say "this person is an asshole even if they make a good point". You seem to get stuck on the former and ignore the latter part
U said he made a good point?
 
This is EXACTLY what Maher advocated for and stated is a requirement at his shows. Not sure if u missed that?


Aside from elites and certain politicians. This including Cuomo who is part of left wing media.


Eh, speculation. But point taken.

No I didn't. Hence me saying him making that point was him as a comedian trying to sell tickets to his shows in cities where he's worried about turnout. Whether it's actual ticket sales numbers he's seeing or him just trying to drum up interest in his shows because he's not as hot as he once was in the eyes of some. Either way he's trying to sell tickets and make money
 
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